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As I understand it it's a salary pool for HN users. I'm an HN user, and I put in my salary. Seems pretty straightforward to me. I'm not really expecting that a

by Cushman 16y ago

As I understand it it's a salary pool for HN users. I'm an HN user, and I put in my salary. Seems pretty straightforward to me. I'm not really expecting that anyone is seriously going to try to use the average salary of HN users for negotiation purposes. But even assuming they were, it appears there are at least a few others who are in my boat. That's relevant information, yes?

pavel_lishin 16y ago
You are unemployed; therefore you have no salary. This is somewhat akin to placing "yes, please" under the "sex" column of a questionaire.
- Cushman 16y ago
  I'm not sure I understand— how does the fact that I'm unemployed, and therefore have no salary, negate the fact that I have no salary? Are you trying to distinguish between "no salary" and "$0 salary"? They feel pretty equivalent to me. Again, this is an informal salary pool for HN users. I'm an HN user, and my yearly income, taking into consideration my no stock options, no bonuses, no salary, and no other non-salary compensation, is $0. In general, do you really think the existence of unemployed hackers who earn $0 yearly is completely irrelevant to anyone who would have an interest in how much hackers are making?
  - Dove 16y ago
    Actually, yes, it is irrelevant, and yes, you don't understand. But it's not your fault. :P You're missing some context: this is a followon to a previous thread: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2438980 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2438980 The idea isn't to see how much other hackers are making in general. The idea is to see how much companies are paying them, so that people who are being paid much less or more than they're worth can figure that out. Granted, it's a pretty statistically silly way to go about that given the breadth of HN readership. The posts further down the thread ("PHP Programmers in Baltimore") make more sense. Not your fault, though. UI guys like to beat up users when they screw up. Don't listen to 'em. You are giving them valuable, valuable information.
  - pavel_lishin 16y ago
    They are as equivalent as an integer value of 0 and a NULL value are.

by Cushman 16y ago

pavel_lishin 16y ago

You are unemployed; therefore you have no salary. This is somewhat akin to placing "yes, please" under the "sex" column of a questionaire.

Cushman 16y ago
I'm not sure I understand— how does the fact that I'm unemployed, and therefore have no salary, negate the fact that I have no salary? Are you trying to distinguish between "no salary" and "$0 salary"? They feel pretty equivalent to me. Again, this is an informal salary pool for HN users. I'm an HN user, and my yearly income, taking into consideration my no stock options, no bonuses, no salary, and no other non-salary compensation, is $0. In general, do you really think the existence of unemployed hackers who earn $0 yearly is completely irrelevant to anyone who would have an interest in how much hackers are making?
- Dove 16y ago
  Actually, yes, it is irrelevant, and yes, you don't understand. But it's not your fault. :P You're missing some context: this is a followon to a previous thread: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2438980 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2438980 The idea isn't to see how much other hackers are making in general. The idea is to see how much companies are paying them, so that people who are being paid much less or more than they're worth can figure that out. Granted, it's a pretty statistically silly way to go about that given the breadth of HN readership. The posts further down the thread ("PHP Programmers in Baltimore") make more sense. Not your fault, though. UI guys like to beat up users when they screw up. Don't listen to 'em. You are giving them valuable, valuable information.
- pavel_lishin 16y ago
  They are as equivalent as an integer value of 0 and a NULL value are.