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>How is that a win? They don't have lockdown

by matz1 6y ago

triceratops 6y ago
"Even though we let in 20 goals, we really won the game because we didn't have to defend."
- matz1 6y ago
  The difference is the death doesn't cause chaos or total economy collapse. Pretty much life is still normal for most people over there, so that is win for me.
  - cygx 6y ago
    GDP of Sweden still shrank by 8.6% in Q2 (compared to 12.1% for the Eurozone or 10.1% for Germany). It's true that they did better economically, but on the flip side, their death toll is rather high.
    - username90 6y ago
      > their death toll is rather high. You will find that Sweden will still be near the top of the charts for lifespan 2020. 3.5% of GDP is 30-50% of the entire healthcare budget, you can buy a lot of extra lifespan for the population for that. Arguing that one way to increase lifespan (corona) is better than all other ways to increase lifespan without any proof is nonsense. As of now it looks like you would save more lives by mostly ignoring Corona and using that money to expand the healthcare sector or improving the diet of poor people or creating exercise programs etc.
  - triceratops 6y ago
    > The difference is the death doesn't cause chaos or total economy collapse. Citation needed.
    - matz1 6y ago
      Just look at sweeden right now, does it look like chaos or total economy collapse to you?
      - triceratops 6y ago
        Sweden has a higher unemployment rate than the US. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf https://www.thelocal.se/20200713/new-stats-reveal-growing-unemployment-in-sweden https://www.thelocal.se/20200713/new-stats-reveal-growing-un...
pwinnski 6y ago
They don't have something they call "lockdown" but they imposed many, many restrictions, and even more than that were self-imposed by Swedes. Their economy contracted almost as much as forced-lockdown countries, so it seems like almost no different at all.

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>How is that a win? They don't have lockdown

by matz1 6y ago

>How is that a win? They don't have lockdown

triceratops 6y ago
"Even though we let in 20 goals, we really won the game because we didn't have to defend."
- matz1 6y ago
  The difference is the death doesn't cause chaos or total economy collapse. Pretty much life is still normal for most people over there, so that is win for me.
  - cygx 6y ago
    GDP of Sweden still shrank by 8.6% in Q2 (compared to 12.1% for the Eurozone or 10.1% for Germany). It's true that they did better economically, but on the flip side, their death toll is rather high.
    - username90 6y ago
      > their death toll is rather high. You will find that Sweden will still be near the top of the charts for lifespan 2020. 3.5% of GDP is 30-50% of the entire healthcare budget, you can buy a lot of extra lifespan for the population for that. Arguing that one way to increase lifespan (corona) is better than all other ways to increase lifespan without any proof is nonsense. As of now it looks like you would save more lives by mostly ignoring Corona and using that money to expand the healthcare sector or improving the diet of poor people or creating exercise programs etc.
  - triceratops 6y ago
    > The difference is the death doesn't cause chaos or total economy collapse. Citation needed.
    - matz1 6y ago
      Just look at sweeden right now, does it look like chaos or total economy collapse to you?
      - triceratops 6y ago
        Sweden has a higher unemployment rate than the US. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf https://www.thelocal.se/20200713/new-stats-reveal-growing-unemployment-in-sweden https://www.thelocal.se/20200713/new-stats-reveal-growing-un...
pwinnski 6y ago
They don't have something they call "lockdown" but they imposed many, many restrictions, and even more than that were self-imposed by Swedes. Their economy contracted almost as much as forced-lockdown countries, so it seems like almost no different at all.