> Maybe here: http://people.csail.mit.edu/gregs/ll1-discuss-archive-html/m.. http://people.csail.mit.edu/gregs/ll1-discuss-archive-html/m.... As far as I know

> Maybe here: http://people.csail.mit.edu/gregs/ll1-discuss-archive-html/m.. http://people.csail.mit.edu/gregs/ll1-discuss-archive-html/m.... As far as I know, yes, that's the oldest I've been able to find.