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HN Salary Pool http://salaryshare.me/230acd5ff2df1bf8cb03f403aabd45be http://salaryshare.me/230acd5ff2df1bf8cb03f403aabd45be If any ones interested.
by mbowcock 16y ago
HN Salary Pool
http://salaryshare.me/230acd5ff2df1bf8cb03f403aabd45be http://salaryshare.me/230acd5ff2df1bf8cb03f403aabd45be
If any ones interested.
- Sukotto 16y agoIt's so sad that some trolling assholes will try to poison cool projects like this by entering extremely high or low numbers. $33million? $123? $0 ... sheesh. http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/ http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/
- arctangent 16y agoThe solution to this problem is to use a trimmed mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truncated_mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truncated_mean
- Cushman 16y agoOne of those $0s is mine. I'm an unemployed college student; it should probably be more like -$20,000. Just sayin'.
- evoltix 16y agoIt's not asking for your net worth. ;)
- Cushman 16y agoI know :'(
- aristidb 16y agoBut the college asks for $20K every year, so that could be considered a negative salary.
- jrockway 16y agoOK, then after taxes, rent, food, utilities, entertainment, savings, and everything else, my salary is also $0. Salary is what your employer pays you, not what you don't spend out of that.
- aristidb 16y agoAnd if you consider the university to be your employer... But people, this was not meant entirely seriously.
- evoltix 16y agoNegative salary is an oxymoron. How can you consider debt a form of compensation?
- Cushman 16y agoTuition is a little special, since it's essentially money I'm paying for the privilege of working on something I'm not being paid for.
- hammock 16y agoThat would be net income, not gross. Net income is salary/other income minus expenses. That's clearly not what people are entering here.
- Sukotto 16y agoIf you are unemployed or self-employed then the question isn't really for you (though the answers certainly are). You're not acting in your own best interest. If you accept that the site's trying to give you ammunition in the form of more accurate information. Then you hurt yourself (and everyone else) by putting in an absurdly high or low number you skew the results away from the actual market value. If it skews high, you're going to miss out on opportunities by holding out for an unrealistically high compensation. If it skews low, you accept less money.
- Cushman 16y agoAs I understand it it's a salary pool for HN users. I'm an HN user, and I put in my salary. Seems pretty straightforward to me. I'm not really expecting that anyone is seriously going to try to use the average salary of HN users for negotiation purposes. But even assuming they were, it appears there are at least a few others who are in my boat. That's relevant information, yes?
- pavel_lishin 16y agoYou are unemployed; therefore you have no salary. This is somewhat akin to placing "yes, please" under the "sex" column of a questionaire.
- Cushman 16y agoI'm not sure I understand— how does the fact that I'm unemployed, and therefore have no salary, negate the fact that I have no salary? Are you trying to distinguish between "no salary" and "$0 salary"? They feel pretty equivalent to me. Again, this is an informal salary pool for HN users. I'm an HN user, and my yearly income, taking into consideration my no stock options, no bonuses, no salary, and no other non-salary compensation, is $0. In general, do you really think the existence of unemployed hackers who earn $0 yearly is completely irrelevant to anyone who would have an interest in how much hackers are making?
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- jhamburger 16y agoThe $0 don't really hurt anything. Someone who makes 60K and puts in 100K does a lot more damage.
- dgabriel 16y agoThere doesn't seem to be a way of looking at the responses without entering a value, which makes it difficult for students, job seekers, etc., to look at the results without entering meaningless data to get there. Am I missing something?
- olalonde 16y agoJust enter a 0$ for now, won't do much harm.
- temptemptemp13 16y agoAre we talking gross btw? I might have written down the net salary...
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- cheez 16y agoIf anyone is interested: https://spreadsheets0.google.com/oimg?key=0AkPc5PxVxBlOdDJBcDROMVJQUlFjeE4yVlNYZUpaVWc&oid=1&zx=adwb7vxpgab8 https://spreadsheets0.google.com/oimg?key=0AkPc5PxVxBlOdDJBc...
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- hammock 16y agoAre we putting in total comp (salary + bonus) or just base?
- hammock 16y agoHere's what the distribution looks like so far, after trimming the ends off- http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7461/21709307.jpg http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7461/21709307.jpg Looks like $50-60K is coming up as the peak of this when you bucket the answers into $10k classes. For the record, "finding the mean" is not the appropriate way to look at this type of data.