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Same for Nintendo, PS, Xbox, Android. And the other 'appstores' - steam, epic, etc Quite frankly, the lockdown of the OS and rejection of this is one of the pr

Same for Nintendo, PS, Xbox, Android. And the other 'appstores' - steam, epic, etc Quite frankly, the lockdown of the OS and rejection of this is one of the primary reasons I'm on iPhone.

tasssko 6y ago
I couldn't agree more. It will only get worse if companies are allowed to create their own Appstores. Using these devices is already a difficult user experience we should be doing more to protect consumers who have already invested in the ecosystem. Apple is indirectly doing this.
vbezhenar 6y ago
So you're happy as a consumer that developer's freedom is taken away from them, but you have more freedom. That's understandable, but you should realize that some developers value their freedom and will just avoid such a locked-down platform. There are plenty of apps missing in iPhone because of that.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  Developers are free to target other platforms, some of them are doing PlayStation exclusives.
- yazaddaruvala 6y ago
  Good! As an iPhone user, I’ll wait for the app to become popular enough that Apple correctly integrates it. Case and point, Swipe keyboards. It was the biggest missing feature for three years when I moved from Android to iPhone. I still preferred my iPhone!
- jbverschoor 6y ago
  There’s no need to have access to things I don’t want them to. There is no need for them to ask for my payment information in a way that can be fraudulent. There are many reasons for them why they’d want to reduce subscription cancellation and other dark patterns. There is no reason for them to be able to install anything, or run arbitrary code on my device. If epic wants to do business with me, they can go through my secretary/lawyer/firewall (Apple). I’m more than 10x likely to spend money on apps, so I think that more than evens it out. Which apps are missing? I’m so t see any added value in another AppStore. Heck, I’d love for Apple to lockdown OS X so that adobe’s store/updater is banned. Wishful thinking
canofbars 6y ago
Yes all of those examples should also be liberated.
tomxor 6y ago
> Quite frankly, the lockdown of the OS and rejection of this is one of the primary reasons I'm on iPhone. _You_ are neither the vendor OR the citizen in the parent comment's metaphor, trying to build or be part of a civilization in the middle of the ocean. Please do not try to justify a restriction because you happen to personally be happy with the current offering, the world is larger than you. There being more freedoms for others will not stop you from restricting yourself.

Same for Nintendo, PS, Xbox, Android. And the other 'appstores' - steam, epic, etc Quite frankly, the lockdown of the OS and rejection of this is one of the primary reasons I'm on iPhone.

tasssko 6y ago

I couldn't agree more. It will only get worse if companies are allowed to create their own Appstores. Using these devices is already a difficult user experience we should be doing more to protect consumers who have already invested in the ecosystem. Apple is indirectly doing this.

vbezhenar 6y ago

So you're happy as a consumer that developer's freedom is taken away from them, but you have more freedom. That's understandable, but you should realize that some developers value their freedom and will just avoid such a locked-down platform. There are plenty of apps missing in iPhone because of that.

pjmlp 6y ago
Developers are free to target other platforms, some of them are doing PlayStation exclusives.
yazaddaruvala 6y ago
Good! As an iPhone user, I’ll wait for the app to become popular enough that Apple correctly integrates it. Case and point, Swipe keyboards. It was the biggest missing feature for three years when I moved from Android to iPhone. I still preferred my iPhone!
jbverschoor 6y ago
There’s no need to have access to things I don’t want them to. There is no need for them to ask for my payment information in a way that can be fraudulent. There are many reasons for them why they’d want to reduce subscription cancellation and other dark patterns. There is no reason for them to be able to install anything, or run arbitrary code on my device. If epic wants to do business with me, they can go through my secretary/lawyer/firewall (Apple). I’m more than 10x likely to spend money on apps, so I think that more than evens it out. Which apps are missing? I’m so t see any added value in another AppStore. Heck, I’d love for Apple to lockdown OS X so that adobe’s store/updater is banned. Wishful thinking

canofbars 6y ago

Yes all of those examples should also be liberated.

tomxor 6y ago

> Quite frankly, the lockdown of the OS and rejection of this is one of the primary reasons I'm on iPhone. _You_ are neither the vendor OR the citizen in the parent comment's metaphor, trying to build or be part of a civilization in the middle of the ocean. Please do not try to justify a restriction because you happen to personally be happy with the current offering, the world is larger than you. There being more freedoms for others will not stop you from restricting yourself.