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And this is a good thing, competition between this stores is good for the users, some users got free games, some developers got better deals. The "needs to lau
by simion314 6y ago
And this is a good thing, competition between this stores is good for the users, some users got free games, some developers got better deals.
The "needs to launch on startup" is FALSE , you can have this launchers set no to start at all and you launch the game and the launcher will start if needed (not all Steam games need Steam in background).
FYI GOG launcher is optional, you can just download the game from the website with a browser and then install it as in old times.
Competition is good and except the Epic drama I did not see anyone complaining the GOG, HumbleBundle, itch.io or downloading from Patreon is a bad thing for PC. I expect though if Apple blocks all launchers on the new OSX for ARM then an army of people will say that downloading a small game directly from Patron is too complicated and insecure for the average Apple user mind.
- pjmlp 6y agoIf I want a store competition I go to shopping mall. The only store that has a place on my devices is the OS vendor store.
- harpratap 6y agoNo one's stopping you from using only Apple store. Why force your choice on other consumers? Let people decide what's best for them
- pjmlp 6y agoThey have the choice to buy other brands.
- dr_dshiv 6y agoThey also have the choice to avoid smartphones altogether. What they want, though, is the ability to use apple hardware and non-apple software. The only reason they can't is because Apple won't let them, unless they pay a 30% commission
- pjmlp 6y agoOne cannot buy a house besides a landing lane and then complain planes are taking off and landing all day long. If iOS doesn't offer what they want, don't buy Apple, plain and simple, there is nothing more to discuss and the judge will set this straight.
- harpratap 6y agoIn developed countries there are laws preventing sale of properties where noise may be so high that it's detrimental to one's health. So if the competition in market is hurting the merchants or consumers, it should be rightfully outlawed.
- pjmlp 6y agoThe market is mobile phones, get a device not produced by Apple and be done with it.
- simion314 6y agoBut if the judge decides that Apple abuses are legal the Google will do it too, then the you will say "Buy a FSF phone if you don't want Silicon Valley abuses, nobody is forcing you to have a phone or Internet"
- pjmlp 6y agoWhat abuses? They are doing nothing that game consoles haven't been doing for 40 years now, or mobile stores since J2ME, Brew, Windows CE/Pocket PC locked to the mobile operator.
- simion314 6y agoOK. Let's assume that Apple wins. Smartphones makers can legally completely lock the users so you run only what they approve. In your opinion if Android is locked then is the argument "use Android if you don't like iOS walls" completely obliterated? I am curious if TikTok gets banned and then will Apple remove the app from existing phones or somehow block it and will they do it for non US citizens (inside and outside US).
- danielheath 6y agoIt's not a good thing that I need 6 stores installed to play the games I've bought, each with their own updater pulling several gigabytes a week off the net just to keep the store app up-to-date. I'd be interested to see whether any jurisdiction would hand down a consumer mandate for unbundling the DRM component from the storefront app; the former only updates occasionally.
- phepranto 6y agoI find it hard to believe that all stores combined patch a single gigabyte in a week, let alone every store patching multiple gigabytes. The size of the stores and their patches are negligible compared to installing any modern game.
- simion314 6y agoBetter to have the option of 5 stores that you can launch when and if you want then only have a Windows/Apple Store that will have more expensive games, will censor stuff based on "american values", will DRM shit so you can't say swap a .dll with something that works better(some old games that work bad on Win10 can be fixed by using a different directx.dll), you could not mod the games - basically you are telling PC people that a console is the best thing because it has 1 small advantage but it fucks you in 12 different ways(more expensive stuff and no freedom)
- Gorbzel 6y agoSimply put, none of the things you’ve said are better are actually better. Launcher apps are garbage, but you just move right past that to one single game that can be downloaded directly out of hundreds that can’t.
- simion314 6y agoFortnite is not the only game rejected by Apple. There are many small games that have versions for Windows,Mac,Linux and Android but not iOS. You are ignoring that except the exclusives you can game most of your games on one store. I do not support exclusivity for one store either and I would prefer I always had the option to buy the products directly from the developer. Like my Intellij subscription I don't want that Microsoft or other big american company gets 30% of the money this hard working developers deserve because I am forced to use a middle man.
- tasssko 6y agothe commenter is right and you have missed the point. There is no competition in this space. You can only get Fortnite from the Epic Games Launcher.
- AnthonyMouse 6y agoBut the Epic Games Launcher is free and doesn't preclude you from using any other launcher/store for anything else, so how does that harm competition? By contrast, if I want iMessage on my phone, Epic has to distribute Fortnight to me though Apple.
- Fnoord 6y agoThe irony is that Epic pays companies a sack of money to have exclusive right for a title, to have it temporarily only available on EGS. I don't like to be bound to any launcher or store. Apple doesn't force you to only use their own launcher; only on their own platform, or if you use their platform to complete the sale (which sounds as odd as it is).
- simion314 6y agoApple is even worse: - as a developer you don't get "a sack of money" but you get a 30% tax (larger then Epic - as a user you don't get free games, discounts or the option to wait for the exclusivity to expire. On top of that you will never(probably) have the option to touch the game files and mod it.
- TeMPOraL 6y agoCompetition is good for the customer when the goods are commodities. Media - books, songs, videogames - are mostly non-substitutable goods: if you want to watch Star Wars, you won't settle for an episode of Friends instead. As soon as exclusive releases are allowed, customer benefits from competition evaporate.