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Epic is disingenuous. They could totally transform the mobile market by investing in IOS alternatives. If you don't like what/how someone is doing something, do

Epic is disingenuous. They could totally transform the mobile market by investing in IOS alternatives. If you don't like what/how someone is doing something, don't cry about it. Do it better. This is simply a political gamble. They are hoping that the publicity gained results in politicians opening up the app store to favor app creators (epic) through regulation. It's a pathetic move.

amanaplanacanal 6y ago
It’s only a pathetic move if it doesn’t work. If it works, then it was a great move.
- bigphishy 6y ago
  This type of comment belongs on reddit or some other medium that supports vacuous comments.
m00x 6y ago
You mean develop a new phone, mobile operating system and compete with the 2 largest companies in the US? Why didn't they think of that? /s
- ghastmaster 6y ago
  I understand. My point is that epic has a very high valuation. Their money is of course focused on gaming, but they could branch into the mobile market. When the iPhone came out Apple had, what 5% share of the desktop market and no phones? Yet they managed to dominate the mobile market. Nothing in this world is static.
  - r0fl 6y ago
    This is the funniest thing I have read here in 2020. Literally spit my drink out. Thanks for the laugh man
- pedroma 6y ago
  Why don't they though? Just fork Android and ask Asus or whatever to launch a phone with that OS preinstalled with the Epic App Store as the default app store. Like Amazon Fire OS.
  - commoner 6y ago
    > Epic claims that Google forced phone manufacturer OnePlus to break off a deal that would have seen a special Fortnite launcher preinstalled on OnePlus phones — and demanded that another Android phonemaker, LG, abandon any plans to do the same. https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21368395/fortnite-epic-games-oneplus-deal-google-play-store-lawsuit-lg https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21368395/fortnite-epic-ga...
    - pedroma 6y ago
      I see, so that may be why Amazon went and created their own hardware too.
      - m00x 6y ago
        If Amazon tried and wasn't successful, I doubt Epic would. The market is meant to be taken by a few players, it's such a huge undertaking. The hope is that those few players play fair.
raz32dust 6y ago
Really? Epic should build their own OS? Even Microsoft was not able to compete with Android/iOS.
- ghastmaster 6y ago
  Apply that same logic to Tesla ten years ago. Arguably they aren't competing with the big auto manufacturers on a production level, but market cap may change that.
dylan604 6y ago
> IOS alternatives this got me to thinking of the alternatives. Android. that's all i could come up with that are viable. out of curiosity, has anyone attempted to install Android on a jailbroken iPhone? Edit: quick search makes it look like it is possible on certain devices. i haven't followed through them yet to see success rate, but if you don't like iOS there you go
- ghastmaster 6y ago
  Innovation is the word that comes to my mind. In 20 years we may not even be using phones. Why? Because a wealthy company like Epic can find a niche, throw some money at R&D and create a new system. There is a reason we are not riding horse and buggy anymore.
  - dylan604 6y ago
    "like Epic" If Epic were going to do that, they would have already done it. Why would they though? They've seen other vendors come and go. They'll just sit back making money by utilizing other people's platforms, and then complain about it. They knew the terms of the contract they agreed to, and are being little babies about it now. They clearly enjoy the money they make through iDevice users, enough that they don't just abandon the platform. Agree or not with Apple's control, but if you agree to their terms that's on you. You can complain all you want, but break their terms and it is again on you. (royal you, not specific you)
toast0 6y ago
Epic's claim is (I believe) that Apple is using its monopoly to unfairly compete. If you believe anti-trust is appropriate, asking a court to enforce it isn't crying about it, it's asking for the law to be followed. If Apple doesn't like the laws of the land, they should make their own. That's not to say I think Epic's case is clear. I think it's a worthy legal question. I don't own any Apple devices from this century, so the result either way wouldn't directly affect me (but certainly ecosystem effects would).

amanaplanacanal 6y ago

It’s only a pathetic move if it doesn’t work. If it works, then it was a great move.

bigphishy 6y ago
This type of comment belongs on reddit or some other medium that supports vacuous comments.

m00x 6y ago

You mean develop a new phone, mobile operating system and compete with the 2 largest companies in the US? Why didn't they think of that? /s

ghastmaster 6y ago
I understand. My point is that epic has a very high valuation. Their money is of course focused on gaming, but they could branch into the mobile market. When the iPhone came out Apple had, what 5% share of the desktop market and no phones? Yet they managed to dominate the mobile market. Nothing in this world is static.
- r0fl 6y ago
  This is the funniest thing I have read here in 2020. Literally spit my drink out. Thanks for the laugh man
pedroma 6y ago
Why don't they though? Just fork Android and ask Asus or whatever to launch a phone with that OS preinstalled with the Epic App Store as the default app store. Like Amazon Fire OS.
- commoner 6y ago
  > Epic claims that Google forced phone manufacturer OnePlus to break off a deal that would have seen a special Fortnite launcher preinstalled on OnePlus phones — and demanded that another Android phonemaker, LG, abandon any plans to do the same. https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21368395/fortnite-epic-games-oneplus-deal-google-play-store-lawsuit-lg https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/13/21368395/fortnite-epic-ga...
  - pedroma 6y ago
    I see, so that may be why Amazon went and created their own hardware too.
    - m00x 6y ago
      If Amazon tried and wasn't successful, I doubt Epic would. The market is meant to be taken by a few players, it's such a huge undertaking. The hope is that those few players play fair.

raz32dust 6y ago

Really? Epic should build their own OS? Even Microsoft was not able to compete with Android/iOS.

ghastmaster 6y ago
Apply that same logic to Tesla ten years ago. Arguably they aren't competing with the big auto manufacturers on a production level, but market cap may change that.

dylan604 6y ago

> IOS alternatives this got me to thinking of the alternatives. Android. that's all i could come up with that are viable. out of curiosity, has anyone attempted to install Android on a jailbroken iPhone? Edit: quick search makes it look like it is possible on certain devices. i haven't followed through them yet to see success rate, but if you don't like iOS there you go

ghastmaster 6y ago
Innovation is the word that comes to my mind. In 20 years we may not even be using phones. Why? Because a wealthy company like Epic can find a niche, throw some money at R&D and create a new system. There is a reason we are not riding horse and buggy anymore.
- dylan604 6y ago
  "like Epic" If Epic were going to do that, they would have already done it. Why would they though? They've seen other vendors come and go. They'll just sit back making money by utilizing other people's platforms, and then complain about it. They knew the terms of the contract they agreed to, and are being little babies about it now. They clearly enjoy the money they make through iDevice users, enough that they don't just abandon the platform. Agree or not with Apple's control, but if you agree to their terms that's on you. You can complain all you want, but break their terms and it is again on you. (royal you, not specific you)

toast0 6y ago

Epic's claim is (I believe) that Apple is using its monopoly to unfairly compete. If you believe anti-trust is appropriate, asking a court to enforce it isn't crying about it, it's asking for the law to be followed. If Apple doesn't like the laws of the land, they should make their own. That's not to say I think Epic's case is clear. I think it's a worthy legal question. I don't own any Apple devices from this century, so the result either way wouldn't directly affect me (but certainly ecosystem effects would).