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Exactly, in the US you are left at the mercy of cruel jailors who will torture you https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/08/wait-do-people-actually-know-just-how

Exactly, in the US you are left at the mercy of cruel jailors who will torture you https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/08/wait-do-people-actually-know-just-how-evil-this-man-is https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/08/wait-do-people-actual... You'll be forced to work and live in prisons overrun by the pandemic https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/coronavirus-sweeping-through-massive-us-prison-population https://www.voanews.com/covid-19-pandemic/coronavirus-sweepi... Even if you're released, you'll be jailed right away if the battery of your electronic monitor will ran out https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-ankle-monitors-are-another-kind-of-jail/ https://www.wired.com/story/opinion-ankle-monitors-are-anoth... Tt'll be though rebuilding your life, since employment opportunities are denied to ex-inmates, and thanks to probation fees, you'll be saddled with debts hard to pull away from. https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2019/04/09/probation_income https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2019/04/09/probation_incom... Ultimately, if you fail to repay those fees, you'll be jailed again. The system works wonderfully... for the for-profit prisons https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/capitalizing-on-mass-incarceration-u-s-growth-in-private-prisons/ https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/capitalizing-... The US is a modern day dystopia, and I don't think that anyone seriously thinks that China's prison system is as bad as the US'

phist_mcgee 6y ago
I do think it's worse. You certainly do not get a lawyer, and you sure as shit do not get the right to a fair trial in china.
- berdario 6y ago
  You might want to educate yourself: https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/the-right-to-an-attorney-and-your-attorneys-rights/ https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/the-right-to-an-attorne... It's far from perfect, but better than in the US
  - phist_mcgee 6y ago
    > The criminal representation rate now is generally said to be somewhere between 30-50%. Last I checked, in the US, every person is entitled to representation. You want to argue that a country without a separate independent judiciary is capable of producing fairer outcomes for individuals without political collusion?

phist_mcgee 6y ago

I do think it's worse. You certainly do not get a lawyer, and you sure as shit do not get the right to a fair trial in china.

berdario 6y ago
You might want to educate yourself: https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/the-right-to-an-attorney-and-your-attorneys-rights/ https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/the-right-to-an-attorne... It's far from perfect, but better than in the US
- phist_mcgee 6y ago
  > The criminal representation rate now is generally said to be somewhere between 30-50%. Last I checked, in the US, every person is entitled to representation. You want to argue that a country without a separate independent judiciary is capable of producing fairer outcomes for individuals without political collusion?