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"Hitler did right by killing all Jews. All Jews must be wiped out from this earth." - what should happen if someone posts this?

by sg47 6y ago

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mc32 6y ago
Same as should happen to people who say "death to all cops" and the like? No single group should endure these epithets. Either you allow them all or you allow none.
- jayd16 6y ago
  ...yes? Sounds good. Calls to violence should not be tolerated.
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- deanCommie 6y ago
  Strawman. defund the police and "ACAB" is far from "death to all cops"
  - mc32 6y ago
    of course, but I'm not quoting ACAB or defund the police.
- ihm 6y ago
  Being a cop (an agent of the state permitted to use deadly force) is a job. It is in no way comparable to being a member of a persecuted ethnic and religious minority. EDIT: Amazed at how much I’m being downvoted for this. Didn’t realize how many “blue lives matter” people browse HN.
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  - geofft 6y ago
    There is a subtlety here, which I'll attempt to get into (and we'll see whether I'm downvoted for it too). "Death to all cops" is bad for one reason: it endorses the idea of extrajudicial, unaccountable killing. "Death to all Jews" is bad for two reasons: it endorses the idea of extrajudicial, unaccountable killing of people, based on an immutable aspect of their person and independent of choices that they have made. If I understand you right, you're not endorsing the idea of extrajudicial, unaccountable killing (but, being charitable to the downvoters, I suspect that they think you're endorsing the former statement wholesale). You're just protesting the false equivalence between these two statements. I would agree with that protest: there is a meaningful difference between, say, "Cops are controlling our society without accountability and we should remove them from power" and "Jews are controlling our society without accountability and we should remove them from power," and you can quite sensibly come up with platform guidelines that say that the former is fine and the latter is not.
    - happytoexplain 6y ago
      >being charitable to the downvoters, I suspect that they think you're endorsing the former statement wholesale I'd be fascinated to know if this was true - I usually try to look at things from all angles, but I can't even see how any person could take this angle.
      - geofft 6y ago
        Er, I should clarify by "endorsing" I mean "endorsing that Facebook should leave up messages saying 'death to all cops,'" not "endorsing 'death to all cops.'" I think that, in context, ihm's statement can quite easily be read as implying "...so, no, Facebook should not remove 'death to all cops' because it's not hate speech, only 'death to all Jews.'" I am guessing that's not actually what ihm is trying to communicate.
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"Hitler did right by killing all Jews. All Jews must be wiped out from this earth." - what should happen if someone posts this?

by sg47 6y ago

"Hitler did right by killing all Jews. All Jews must be wiped out from this earth." - what should happen if someone posts this?

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mc32 6y ago

Same as should happen to people who say "death to all cops" and the like? No single group should endure these epithets. Either you allow them all or you allow none.

jayd16 6y ago
...yes? Sounds good. Calls to violence should not be tolerated.
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deanCommie 6y ago
Strawman. defund the police and "ACAB" is far from "death to all cops"
- mc32 6y ago
  of course, but I'm not quoting ACAB or defund the police.
ihm 6y ago
Being a cop (an agent of the state permitted to use deadly force) is a job. It is in no way comparable to being a member of a persecuted ethnic and religious minority. EDIT: Amazed at how much I’m being downvoted for this. Didn’t realize how many “blue lives matter” people browse HN.
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- geofft 6y ago
  There is a subtlety here, which I'll attempt to get into (and we'll see whether I'm downvoted for it too). "Death to all cops" is bad for one reason: it endorses the idea of extrajudicial, unaccountable killing. "Death to all Jews" is bad for two reasons: it endorses the idea of extrajudicial, unaccountable killing of people, based on an immutable aspect of their person and independent of choices that they have made. If I understand you right, you're not endorsing the idea of extrajudicial, unaccountable killing (but, being charitable to the downvoters, I suspect that they think you're endorsing the former statement wholesale). You're just protesting the false equivalence between these two statements. I would agree with that protest: there is a meaningful difference between, say, "Cops are controlling our society without accountability and we should remove them from power" and "Jews are controlling our society without accountability and we should remove them from power," and you can quite sensibly come up with platform guidelines that say that the former is fine and the latter is not.
  - happytoexplain 6y ago
    >being charitable to the downvoters, I suspect that they think you're endorsing the former statement wholesale I'd be fascinated to know if this was true - I usually try to look at things from all angles, but I can't even see how any person could take this angle.
    - geofft 6y ago
      Er, I should clarify by "endorsing" I mean "endorsing that Facebook should leave up messages saying 'death to all cops,'" not "endorsing 'death to all cops.'" I think that, in context, ihm's statement can quite easily be read as implying "...so, no, Facebook should not remove 'death to all cops' because it's not hate speech, only 'death to all Jews.'" I am guessing that's not actually what ihm is trying to communicate.
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