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Just to raise awareness about this (not trying to be nitpicky, sorry) labor in american prisons is typically unpaid (or might as well be, sometimes paying less

Just to raise awareness about this (not trying to be nitpicky, sorry) labor in american prisons is typically unpaid (or might as well be, sometimes paying less than $1/hr) and not optional as the 13th ammendemnt specifically allows slavery as a punishment. JCPenny uses american prison labor to market their jeans as made in america, and I believe mcdonalds uniforms are made with prison labor. Netflix has a very good documentary on this, I'd recommend it (as long as you're willing to be very sad about it for at least a few days) https://www.netflix.com/title/80091741 https://www.netflix.com/title/80091741 For reference the 13th ammendment reads "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." But the rest of your post is correct.

Aperocky 6y ago
> But the rest of your post is correct. Won't say that, there are quite a bit of unsubstantiated claims in that message supported only by few individuals and organizations paid by the CIA.
- godelski 6y ago
  Do you have evidence of this? Both of you made bold claims that citations would help with.
  - Aperocky 6y ago
    All of his claim can more or less be trace backed to Adrian Zenz, who is a 'Senior Fellow of China Studies' at Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation. If the name was not immediately telling, it was set up and paid for by the US government.
  - berdario 6y ago
    Not as bold as the claims of millions of Uyghurs being detained: https://twitter.com/RodericDay/status/1287411708374454273 https://twitter.com/RodericDay/status/1287411708374454273
- ameen 6y ago
  There’s testimonies of actual Uighurs who have described what goes on in these camps- are they now CIA plants?
  - wonnage 6y ago
    You mean like the ones made up before every major US military intervention in the last 30 years? Some examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony?wprov=sfti1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony?wprov=sfti1 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2004/feb/25/iraq.iraqandthemedia https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2004/feb/25/iraq.iraqan... https://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/21/world/middleeast/iraqi-refugees-tale-of-abuse-dissolves-upon-later-scrutiny.html https://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/21/world/middleeast/iraqi-re...

Aperocky 6y ago

> But the rest of your post is correct. Won't say that, there are quite a bit of unsubstantiated claims in that message supported only by few individuals and organizations paid by the CIA.

godelski 6y ago
Do you have evidence of this? Both of you made bold claims that citations would help with.
- Aperocky 6y ago
  All of his claim can more or less be trace backed to Adrian Zenz, who is a 'Senior Fellow of China Studies' at Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation. If the name was not immediately telling, it was set up and paid for by the US government.
- berdario 6y ago
  Not as bold as the claims of millions of Uyghurs being detained: https://twitter.com/RodericDay/status/1287411708374454273 https://twitter.com/RodericDay/status/1287411708374454273
ameen 6y ago
There’s testimonies of actual Uighurs who have described what goes on in these camps- are they now CIA plants?
- wonnage 6y ago
  You mean like the ones made up before every major US military intervention in the last 30 years? Some examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony?wprov=sfti1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony?wprov=sfti1 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2004/feb/25/iraq.iraqandthemedia https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2004/feb/25/iraq.iraqan... https://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/21/world/middleeast/iraqi-refugees-tale-of-abuse-dissolves-upon-later-scrutiny.html https://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/21/world/middleeast/iraqi-re...