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Feels to me like right now/this last decade is a golden era as well. Factorio, rimworld, binding of Isaac, dark souls + sekiro, xcom, civ 6, Divinity, paradox g

Feels to me like right now/this last decade is a golden era as well. Factorio, rimworld, binding of Isaac, dark souls + sekiro, xcom, civ 6, Divinity, paradox games, Minecraft, subnautica, rocket league. To name a few of my favorites.

diffrinse 6y ago
The Last of Us Part II
- sgillen 6y ago
  Not for pc unfortunately!
  - diffrinse 6y ago
    Yikes, thought we were speaking generally
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mywittyname 6y ago
Today is absolutely the golden age. We stand at the point where making and selling a game is easier than it has ever been. I think over the years, people will continue to move away from PCs as a gaming platform to mobile devices, and shovelware from the casual, pay-to-play game companies will keep the market so saturated that it will be hard to discover great indie titles. PS. your list is missing Disco!
- jointpdf 6y ago
  The term shovelware reminds me of the E.T. incident. A game so bad that Atari literally got out the shovels: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_video_game_burial https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_video_game_burial
- chrisco255 6y ago
  Really? I feel like any damage mobile could do has already been done at this point. Mobile is no longer novel and has been saturated for many years. I haven't built a new PC in years but recently with the fantastic AMD chips and some great titles that I want to explore, I plan on doing it soon. Plus it would be nice to have a system I could tether a VR headset to if I want.
Merem 6y ago
I tend to agree with him (well, for me 95-2004 is the golden era) for the reason that it's mostly "been there, done that" nowadays. In addition, you have a lot of bad business practices such as microtransactions, lootboxes, terrible DRM (Denuvo, Steam etc), release of unfinished products and you can't even buy the games physically anymore. Apart from some indie games, nothing really seems worth it. As someone who started playing PC games at the beginning of the 00s, I'm mostly playing ones released in the 90s and early 00s. The main issue with older games is typically the UI and controls. Apart from that, they feel a lot more "fresh" due to its content and often times experimentation. In contrast, a lot of games these days stick to the same things and at best combine two genres into one (roguelites for instance). Or they take old ideas and just build on top of it. Very rarely you get something like "Return of the Obra Dinn".
Shared404 6y ago
For me personally, I would add Hollow Knight to the list. That is one of the few games I intend to always have installed on at least one machine.
- drivebycomment 6y ago
  Yeah. I think gaming market and the technology are doing just fine since it produced Hollow Knight. I really think it is one of the best games in history, and one of the greatest storytelling in an interactive, electric media. Such exquisite balance between simplicity and detail, music and visual, story line and game play, characters and background, etc. Waiting for Silksong...
  - mercer 6y ago
    Then there's also Shovel Knight, Celeste, The Messenger, Stardew Valley, Undertale, and so on. We've never had it better as gamers!
renewiltord 6y ago
Minecraft is the best game I have ever played in 25 years of playing games. Nothing like it. A masterpiece. Once in a generation masterwork. Created an avenue for creativity for a generation. It's for the history books.
- Merem 6y ago
  Do you know Clonk? Minecraft is basically that, just in 3D and with some added things like a procedurally-generated world and stuff like hunger. But crafting, "blocks", extracting materials, mobs, multiplayer, creating new items, mechanics, scenarios etc for the game and so on were already there, many years before Minecraft. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Clonk-Endeavour-4.9.5.4-deutsch-screen.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Clonk-En... https://cc-archive.lwrl.de/shots/7.jpg https://cc-archive.lwrl.de/shots/7.jpg (with Stippel pack) Seems like it's really hard to come by screenshots these days. Things like the Stargate pack with working portals, Goa'uld etc were just great.
  - renewiltord 6y ago
    Incredible. What a disappointment I did not come across these as a child. There's something to Minecraft, though, and I can't quite describe it.
  - Kiro 6y ago
    Clonk is great but not comparable to Minecraft imo.
  - HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
    Some of the added things you mentioned plus the 3d aspect are vital to what minecraft is. The game starts in survival mode and slowly switches to building mode which is a very well executed and satisfying transition. The 3d aspect of it is important and so is the hunger. Hunger is the first bit of horizontal progression, then the rest comes from unlocking building resources and convenience. Vertical progression in comparison is quick and 99% of the mobs soon pose no challenge.
- mcv 6y ago
GarvielLoken 6y ago
Totally agree. Dark Souls threw every third person action game of the nineties down the trash. Same with the wargame series being the best rts game ever released, in complexity combined with real time and unit balance it's unparalleled. The only 90 games worth talking about anymore are the rpg games, the space simulators/rpgs and Homeworld. As in that you would actually prefer to play it instead of a modern game for none nostalgic reasons. And we still have games breaking new ground like Disco Elysium.
- freeAgent 6y ago
  Eh, I think there are truly classic games from all genres from the 90s that are still relevant and played today. RTS games like StarCraft and Red Alert still have large followings. On the FPS side there’s the original Counter-Strike (well, “1.6” at least), Doom, Quake, and even stuff like Starsiege: Tribes which I’d say are still relevant and hugely influential. I have played lots of these games in recent years. I enjoy the relative simplicity of them compared to most modern day counterparts.
- Shared404 6y ago
  > Dark Souls threw every third person action game of the nineties down the trash. I dunno. Ocarina still holds up today, or at least the 3DS remake does. I don't know about the original.
  - GarvielLoken 6y ago
    Yeah, the Zelda series is alright. And the Zelda games for all consoles are still worth playing.

diffrinse 6y ago

The Last of Us Part II

sgillen 6y ago
Not for pc unfortunately!
- diffrinse 6y ago
  Yikes, thought we were speaking generally
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]

mywittyname 6y ago

Today is absolutely the golden age. We stand at the point where making and selling a game is easier than it has ever been. I think over the years, people will continue to move away from PCs as a gaming platform to mobile devices, and shovelware from the casual, pay-to-play game companies will keep the market so saturated that it will be hard to discover great indie titles. PS. your list is missing Disco!

jointpdf 6y ago
The term shovelware reminds me of the E.T. incident. A game so bad that Atari literally got out the shovels: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_video_game_burial https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_video_game_burial
chrisco255 6y ago
Really? I feel like any damage mobile could do has already been done at this point. Mobile is no longer novel and has been saturated for many years. I haven't built a new PC in years but recently with the fantastic AMD chips and some great titles that I want to explore, I plan on doing it soon. Plus it would be nice to have a system I could tether a VR headset to if I want.

Merem 6y ago

I tend to agree with him (well, for me 95-2004 is the golden era) for the reason that it's mostly "been there, done that" nowadays. In addition, you have a lot of bad business practices such as microtransactions, lootboxes, terrible DRM (Denuvo, Steam etc), release of unfinished products and you can't even buy the games physically anymore. Apart from some indie games, nothing really seems worth it. As someone who started playing PC games at the beginning of the 00s, I'm mostly playing ones released in the 90s and early 00s. The main issue with older games is typically the UI and controls. Apart from that, they feel a lot more "fresh" due to its content and often times experimentation. In contrast, a lot of games these days stick to the same things and at best combine two genres into one (roguelites for instance). Or they take old ideas and just build on top of it. Very rarely you get something like "Return of the Obra Dinn".

Shared404 6y ago

For me personally, I would add Hollow Knight to the list. That is one of the few games I intend to always have installed on at least one machine.

drivebycomment 6y ago
Yeah. I think gaming market and the technology are doing just fine since it produced Hollow Knight. I really think it is one of the best games in history, and one of the greatest storytelling in an interactive, electric media. Such exquisite balance between simplicity and detail, music and visual, story line and game play, characters and background, etc. Waiting for Silksong...
- mercer 6y ago
  Then there's also Shovel Knight, Celeste, The Messenger, Stardew Valley, Undertale, and so on. We've never had it better as gamers!

renewiltord 6y ago

Minecraft is the best game I have ever played in 25 years of playing games. Nothing like it. A masterpiece. Once in a generation masterwork. Created an avenue for creativity for a generation. It's for the history books.

Merem 6y ago
Do you know Clonk? Minecraft is basically that, just in 3D and with some added things like a procedurally-generated world and stuff like hunger. But crafting, "blocks", extracting materials, mobs, multiplayer, creating new items, mechanics, scenarios etc for the game and so on were already there, many years before Minecraft. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Clonk-Endeavour-4.9.5.4-deutsch-screen.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Clonk-En... https://cc-archive.lwrl.de/shots/7.jpg https://cc-archive.lwrl.de/shots/7.jpg (with Stippel pack) Seems like it's really hard to come by screenshots these days. Things like the Stargate pack with working portals, Goa'uld etc were just great.
- renewiltord 6y ago
  Incredible. What a disappointment I did not come across these as a child. There's something to Minecraft, though, and I can't quite describe it.
- Kiro 6y ago
  Clonk is great but not comparable to Minecraft imo.
- HeadsUpHigh 6y ago
  Some of the added things you mentioned plus the 3d aspect are vital to what minecraft is. The game starts in survival mode and slowly switches to building mode which is a very well executed and satisfying transition. The 3d aspect of it is important and so is the hunger. Hunger is the first bit of horizontal progression, then the rest comes from unlocking building resources and convenience. Vertical progression in comparison is quick and 99% of the mobs soon pose no challenge.
mcv 6y ago

GarvielLoken 6y ago

Totally agree. Dark Souls threw every third person action game of the nineties down the trash. Same with the wargame series being the best rts game ever released, in complexity combined with real time and unit balance it's unparalleled. The only 90 games worth talking about anymore are the rpg games, the space simulators/rpgs and Homeworld. As in that you would actually prefer to play it instead of a modern game for none nostalgic reasons. And we still have games breaking new ground like Disco Elysium.

freeAgent 6y ago
Eh, I think there are truly classic games from all genres from the 90s that are still relevant and played today. RTS games like StarCraft and Red Alert still have large followings. On the FPS side there’s the original Counter-Strike (well, “1.6” at least), Doom, Quake, and even stuff like Starsiege: Tribes which I’d say are still relevant and hugely influential. I have played lots of these games in recent years. I enjoy the relative simplicity of them compared to most modern day counterparts.
Shared404 6y ago
> Dark Souls threw every third person action game of the nineties down the trash. I dunno. Ocarina still holds up today, or at least the 3DS remake does. I don't know about the original.
- GarvielLoken 6y ago
  Yeah, the Zelda series is alright. And the Zelda games for all consoles are still worth playing.