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All medicines were new at some point in time. Your anti-vax fear mongering doesn't belong here.

pieceofcakedude 6y ago
LOL! Pointing out that an unfamiliar vaccine technology has never been used before is now officially anti-vax fear mongering.
- puranjay 6y ago
  I swear the pro vaxxers are as much of a cult now as the anti vaxxers. I've been attacked so many times for simply saying that I would wait a while for results before trusting a rushed vaccine, especially one that has a massive financial upside for the creator.
- manicdee 6y ago
  I mean you could check the other comments under that one to see that it's a deliberate trigger for anti-vax fearmongering. It's one thing to be skeptical, it's another to be a denier. If you can't pick up on the cues then you'll never be able to fight misinformation.
toast0 6y ago
Plenty of medicines were new and then removed from the market. Being cautious about new techniques seems reasonable, given the history of medicine. (And frankly, a lot of other fields) It would be nice to be able to say this new vaccine is based on existing methods that we know from years of experience are very safe; but we can't for this candidate. That doesn't make it less safe (or more safe), but it makes the risk more unknown.
anoncake 6y ago
"New" medicines have been tested for years before they're used on a large scale.
- manicdee 6y ago
  That's right, testing is part of scientific medicine. Once it's been through the usual tests and we have some idea of efficacy and understand how to manage the side effects, it will be approved for use.
  - anoncake 6y ago
    How to manage the short-term side effects. Testing for long-term ones cannot be done quickly.
tuna-piano 6y ago
There's nothing inherently safe about injecting stuff into humans. There's nothing inherently crazy about questioning if injecting specific things into people is safe. Vaccines on the market today are only safe because they've been studied and trialed extensively. Many vaccines, doses, additives, etc have and will continue to be proven to not be safe. A recent example of an approved vaccine which may have caused deaths: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dengvaxia_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dengvaxia_controversy

LOL! Pointing out that an unfamiliar vaccine technology has never been used before is now officially anti-vax fear mongering.

puranjay 6y ago
I swear the pro vaxxers are as much of a cult now as the anti vaxxers. I've been attacked so many times for simply saying that I would wait a while for results before trusting a rushed vaccine, especially one that has a massive financial upside for the creator.
manicdee 6y ago
I mean you could check the other comments under that one to see that it's a deliberate trigger for anti-vax fearmongering. It's one thing to be skeptical, it's another to be a denier. If you can't pick up on the cues then you'll never be able to fight misinformation.

toast0 6y ago

Plenty of medicines were new and then removed from the market. Being cautious about new techniques seems reasonable, given the history of medicine. (And frankly, a lot of other fields) It would be nice to be able to say this new vaccine is based on existing methods that we know from years of experience are very safe; but we can't for this candidate. That doesn't make it less safe (or more safe), but it makes the risk more unknown.

anoncake 6y ago

"New" medicines have been tested for years before they're used on a large scale.

manicdee 6y ago
That's right, testing is part of scientific medicine. Once it's been through the usual tests and we have some idea of efficacy and understand how to manage the side effects, it will be approved for use.
- anoncake 6y ago
  How to manage the short-term side effects. Testing for long-term ones cannot be done quickly.

tuna-piano 6y ago

There's nothing inherently safe about injecting stuff into humans. There's nothing inherently crazy about questioning if injecting specific things into people is safe. Vaccines on the market today are only safe because they've been studied and trialed extensively. Many vaccines, doses, additives, etc have and will continue to be proven to not be safe. A recent example of an approved vaccine which may have caused deaths: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dengvaxia_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dengvaxia_controversy