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What occupation? US troops have largely left Iraq and they run their own form of democracy now. > If the US didn't invade Iraq, ISIS would have been destroyed

What occupation? US troops have largely left Iraq and they run their own form of democracy now. > If the US didn't invade Iraq, ISIS would have been destroyed too. Yeah, and Saddam would still be in power, torturing and genociding. Wasn't exactly nice before either.

sudosysgen 6y ago
Sure. And now instead we have 37 million people displaced, and millions killed. Ain't that much better. Iraq itself asked the US to leave, and they didn't. I believe the technical term for that is "occupation". And by the way, if the US was so interested in stopping torturous dictators they'd go after the Saudis. And we don't, because the only thing the State Department cares about is US imperial interests. Notice in all these cases, the life of the common man got worse, but magically the US achieved all of its interests. How interesting.
phobosanomaly 6y ago
A country whose leader was overthrown, military was dissolved, and entire government structure was dismantled as a result of unilateral foreign activity will most likely feel the ripple effects of that for the next hundred years. You can't just do that and then go 'well, it's their own democracy now, they're good.' We're still seeing the repercussions of slavery playing out on the streets of the United States in the form of protests to this very day.
LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
When the troops are gone, the private military contractors come. To advise, and guide, allegedly. Off the books, out of mind, a very special kind. Anyways, a lazy list of links: https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a48032/private-armies-operation-iraqi-freedom/ https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a48032/private-armies-... https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/03/14/who-are-the-private-contractors-in-iraq-and-afghanistan/ https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/03/14/who-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_military_contractors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_military_contr... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_contractor_deaths_in_Iraq https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_contractor_dea... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_military_company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_military_company https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/04/pentagon-acknowledge-us-contractor-presence-syria-iraq.html https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/04/pentagon-...

sudosysgen 6y ago

Sure. And now instead we have 37 million people displaced, and millions killed. Ain't that much better. Iraq itself asked the US to leave, and they didn't. I believe the technical term for that is "occupation". And by the way, if the US was so interested in stopping torturous dictators they'd go after the Saudis. And we don't, because the only thing the State Department cares about is US imperial interests. Notice in all these cases, the life of the common man got worse, but magically the US achieved all of its interests. How interesting.

phobosanomaly 6y ago

A country whose leader was overthrown, military was dissolved, and entire government structure was dismantled as a result of unilateral foreign activity will most likely feel the ripple effects of that for the next hundred years. You can't just do that and then go 'well, it's their own democracy now, they're good.' We're still seeing the repercussions of slavery playing out on the streets of the United States in the form of protests to this very day.

LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago

When the troops are gone, the private military contractors come. To advise, and guide, allegedly. Off the books, out of mind, a very special kind. Anyways, a lazy list of links: https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a48032/private-armies-operation-iraqi-freedom/ https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a48032/private-armies-... https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/03/14/who-are-the-private-contractors-in-iraq-and-afghanistan/ https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/03/14/who-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_military_contractors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_military_contr... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_contractor_deaths_in_Iraq https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_private_contractor_dea... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_military_company https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_military_company https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/04/pentagon-acknowledge-us-contractor-presence-syria-iraq.html https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/04/pentagon-...