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> While the United States is not the sole cause for the migration from these countries, the authors say it has played either a dominant or contributing role in
by beervirus 6y ago
> While the United States is not the sole cause for the migration from these countries, the authors say it has played either a dominant or contributing role in these conflicts.
This makes the scary-headline conclusion pretty worthless.
- sudosysgen 6y agoIt really isn't. US actions made it possible for the problem to become what it is. If it wasn't for US involvement Iraq would have been a strong state and would have destroyed any force like ISIS, Al Qaeda wouldn't be much more than a reading group, Syria would be peaceful, Libya would still exist, and so on. It can be true that you have had a strong contributing role and that it wouldn't have happened if you weren't there - that's just how multicausal events works.
- beervirus 6y agoThat's all awfully speculative, especially the part about Al Qaeda being just a reading group.
- sudosysgen 6y agoAnd yet, it turns out that every single major terrorist group has had the US implicate in their origin and rise. Isn't it funny how that turns out?
- beervirus 6y ago“Implicated” as in they hate the US and wouldn’t exist without us as their enemy.
- sudosysgen 6y agoNo, as in were founded due to direct action and were allied with the interests of the US.