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Yeah, I saw this counter argument before, and I wonder the same thing, but does intellectual consistency matter much in the court of law?

parasubvert 6y ago
It does if you’re about to declare things that have existed for decades with no problem as suddenly Anticompetitive or illegal.
- kevingadd 6y ago
  Things literally do go from fine to anti-competitive or illegal over time, because context matters and both laws and circumstances change. In one case, the US fought a whole war over something that was previously legal for decades!
  - parasubvert 6y ago
    This is true, but do people really think it’s the end of history for personal computing and that iOS and Android are the endgame such that they should be regulated like energy utilities? The lack of entrepreneurial imagination is astounding. VR and AR are coming, Facebook and Valve are poised to be the next kings of tech. The current era of Apple and Google has an obvious time limit.
    - threeseed 6y ago
      Given how many companies Apple has acquired over the last few years pretty sure they are much further ahead in the AR/VR space than Facebook/Valve. They just have a tendency to keep things under wraps until the big reveal.
gpm 6y ago
In this case it doesn't really, in general it does. You aren't obligated to sue everyone breaking the law just because you sued one person that did, which seems to be the sum of the "but Xbox and playstation" argument. In that sense, literally not at all. Intellectual consistency does matter in the sense that courts will... heavily frown upon... you arguing X in one case and not X in another. But that hasn't happened here.
- nmfisher 6y ago
  I fully expect the court to ask the question though. "Is there any difference between Apple and Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo?" is a logical sequitur to "what's your market?" and "who holds the power?". Epic might say yes, they might say no. Either way, I'm interested to hear the reasoning.
samatman 6y ago
Courts have broad discretion to conduct the course of lawsuits. In this case, I fully expect the judges to ask some hard questions about why Epic seems so content with the consoles, while taking a bold stand for freedom on mobile, and only mobile. I'll be up in the virtual peanut gallery munching popcorn the whole time. It's gonna be a ride.
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parasubvert 6y ago

It does if you’re about to declare things that have existed for decades with no problem as suddenly Anticompetitive or illegal.

kevingadd 6y ago
Things literally do go from fine to anti-competitive or illegal over time, because context matters and both laws and circumstances change. In one case, the US fought a whole war over something that was previously legal for decades!
- parasubvert 6y ago
  This is true, but do people really think it’s the end of history for personal computing and that iOS and Android are the endgame such that they should be regulated like energy utilities? The lack of entrepreneurial imagination is astounding. VR and AR are coming, Facebook and Valve are poised to be the next kings of tech. The current era of Apple and Google has an obvious time limit.
  - threeseed 6y ago
    Given how many companies Apple has acquired over the last few years pretty sure they are much further ahead in the AR/VR space than Facebook/Valve. They just have a tendency to keep things under wraps until the big reveal.

gpm 6y ago

In this case it doesn't really, in general it does. You aren't obligated to sue everyone breaking the law just because you sued one person that did, which seems to be the sum of the "but Xbox and playstation" argument. In that sense, literally not at all. Intellectual consistency does matter in the sense that courts will... heavily frown upon... you arguing X in one case and not X in another. But that hasn't happened here.

nmfisher 6y ago
I fully expect the court to ask the question though. "Is there any difference between Apple and Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo?" is a logical sequitur to "what's your market?" and "who holds the power?". Epic might say yes, they might say no. Either way, I'm interested to hear the reasoning.

samatman 6y ago

Courts have broad discretion to conduct the course of lawsuits. In this case, I fully expect the judges to ask some hard questions about why Epic seems so content with the consoles, while taking a bold stand for freedom on mobile, and only mobile. I'll be up in the virtual peanut gallery munching popcorn the whole time. It's gonna be a ride.

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