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Isn't it just bizarre how people can have children and not expect it to disrupt their lives. They are children, they require your engagement, this is part of th

Isn't it just bizarre how people can have children and not expect it to disrupt their lives. They are children, they require your engagement, this is part of the deal. Tech companies should offer the same time off to all employees whether they have children or not. Children should not be allowed to be bargaining chip to obtain more from others. Your choice. To be honest having children out weighs any negative impact it has on career progression and if you don't understand that you should have not have had children to begin with. Oddly this is little different than what some people do with pets, they are fine and wonderful until they realize they require time, attention, and money.

burlesona 6y ago
Nobody expects having kids to be free or easy. But nobody expected to have a global pandemic that completely disrupted and in most cases eliminated the entire support structure that parents have in place either. Right now companies that are offering more support to parents are doing so because they recognize that parents are much more impacted by current events than non-parents, and also because this is expected to be temporary.
- extrawork99 6y ago
  > Nobody expects having kids to be free or easy. Lol. Yes. They do. They expect handouts from friends and family, both in time and materials. They expect tax breaks. They expect parental leave. They expect the world to fall inline with their desires, all because they chose to have children.
edanm 6y ago
Not many people have children without knowing it will disrupt their lives. On the other hand, not many people planned on a pandemic that would cause almost the entire support structure for having children to disappear.
- recursive 6y ago
  > Not many people have children without knowing it will disrupt their lives. On the other hand, the depth and extent of the disruption is not something I could have possibly imagined at the time though. Just saying, not complaining.
doopy-loopy2 6y ago
This. The right way to do it is to offer ALL employees the same time off/benefits.
jajsd3udf 6y ago
Actually this is a great point: give everyone enough time off/benefits so that they could have children if they really want to, or they could use that time/benefits in other ways. In this scenario, everyone would make their decision whether to have children irrespective of calculations about benefits. Of course today's reality is that some people may question whether they can afford to have children, rather than whether they get enough back from society for the trouble.

burlesona 6y ago

Nobody expects having kids to be free or easy. But nobody expected to have a global pandemic that completely disrupted and in most cases eliminated the entire support structure that parents have in place either. Right now companies that are offering more support to parents are doing so because they recognize that parents are much more impacted by current events than non-parents, and also because this is expected to be temporary.

extrawork99 6y ago
> Nobody expects having kids to be free or easy. Lol. Yes. They do. They expect handouts from friends and family, both in time and materials. They expect tax breaks. They expect parental leave. They expect the world to fall inline with their desires, all because they chose to have children.

edanm 6y ago

Not many people have children without knowing it will disrupt their lives. On the other hand, not many people planned on a pandemic that would cause almost the entire support structure for having children to disappear.

recursive 6y ago
> Not many people have children without knowing it will disrupt their lives. On the other hand, the depth and extent of the disruption is not something I could have possibly imagined at the time though. Just saying, not complaining.

doopy-loopy2 6y ago

This. The right way to do it is to offer ALL employees the same time off/benefits.

jajsd3udf 6y ago

Actually this is a great point: give everyone enough time off/benefits so that they could have children if they really want to, or they could use that time/benefits in other ways. In this scenario, everyone would make their decision whether to have children irrespective of calculations about benefits. Of course today's reality is that some people may question whether they can afford to have children, rather than whether they get enough back from society for the trouble.