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I'm not sure how exactly to respond either. Your response seems unrelated to the thread so far. > I don't think most consider the UN to be upholding Western va

by xster 6y ago

I'm not sure how exactly to respond either. Your response seems unrelated to the thread so far. > I don't think most consider the UN to be upholding Western values. Of course my reply doesn't respond to your questions on western values. It's the first time you bring up "western values". That's why I asked what you're referring to as "our". > China has a lot of PR power. part of which is exactly what the article and topic at hand are about. This is so far removed from reality that I'm not exactly sure how to respond. Maybe you're right. I wouldn't know how to quantify it. Can you name a single thing in the past decade came into your consciousness from Chinese PR (that isn't re-broadcasted from western editorials)? > Since when is the OIC considered "Western"? Wait, I thought the west cares about the whole thing now because of Muslim freedom and eagles and all. Now Muslim opinions on Muslims are irrelevant? That's the most "Western" thing to say :)

godelski 6y ago
> It's the first time you bring up "western values". That's why I asked what you're referring to as "our". See my original comment > Can you name a single thing in the past decade came into your consciousness from Chinese PR (that isn't re-broadcasted from western editorials)? What's in the parenthesis makes that a near impossible criteria since western media does do global coverage depending on what you mean by editorials. It is important to remember that the media here doesn't have to report back to any single entity. There's multiple countries, multiple organizations. Each with their own bias. But every country does report on global news. If we are considering news that isn't editorials, then yes, plenty. There's been plenty here on HN. TikTok's response was on the front page. Several news organizations have defended TikTok. Some have issued (non-editorial) pieces on both sides. There's a lot of talk of military, which is PR. Economics. Quite a lot of economics and how fast China is growing. That's PR too. How quickly China dealt with covid 19. That's PR too. So either this is trivial or impossible depending on your statement in parenthesis. > Now Muslim opinions on Muslims are irrelevant? HN has rules about acting in good faith. Willfully misrepresenting comments, trolling, and baiting are not allowed here. [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- xster 6y ago
  > Since when is the OIC considered "Western"? HN has rules about acting in good faith. Willfully misrepresenting comments, trolling, and baiting are not allowed here. [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > This is so far removed from reality that I'm not exactly sure how to respond. HN has rules about acting in good faith. Willfully misrepresenting comments, trolling, and baiting are not allowed here. [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We're going places my friend.

by xster 6y ago

godelski 6y ago

> It's the first time you bring up "western values". That's why I asked what you're referring to as "our". See my original comment > Can you name a single thing in the past decade came into your consciousness from Chinese PR (that isn't re-broadcasted from western editorials)? What's in the parenthesis makes that a near impossible criteria since western media does do global coverage depending on what you mean by editorials. It is important to remember that the media here doesn't have to report back to any single entity. There's multiple countries, multiple organizations. Each with their own bias. But every country does report on global news. If we are considering news that isn't editorials, then yes, plenty. There's been plenty here on HN. TikTok's response was on the front page. Several news organizations have defended TikTok. Some have issued (non-editorial) pieces on both sides. There's a lot of talk of military, which is PR. Economics. Quite a lot of economics and how fast China is growing. That's PR too. How quickly China dealt with covid 19. That's PR too. So either this is trivial or impossible depending on your statement in parenthesis. > Now Muslim opinions on Muslims are irrelevant? HN has rules about acting in good faith. Willfully misrepresenting comments, trolling, and baiting are not allowed here. [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

xster 6y ago
> Since when is the OIC considered "Western"? HN has rules about acting in good faith. Willfully misrepresenting comments, trolling, and baiting are not allowed here. [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > This is so far removed from reality that I'm not exactly sure how to respond. HN has rules about acting in good faith. Willfully misrepresenting comments, trolling, and baiting are not allowed here. [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html We're going places my friend.