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Every time I see a ".google" domain it just feels wrong.
by pcstl 6y ago
Every time I see a ".google" domain it just feels wrong.
- Cactus2018 6y agoAnd https://google.google https://google.google doesn't work
- 1023bytes 6y agohttps://google/ https://google/ would be interesting
- CydeWeys 6y agoUnfortunately not allowed per ICANN's contract for new gTLDs. Though even if it were, it probably wouldn't be a good idea to actually use it because support for first level globally resolving strings is quite limited across a variety of applications and OS stacks. Oftentimes you have to append the trailing canonical dot to get it to even try to make the correct globally resolving DNS request, and that's just not good/consistent UX.
- spurgu 6y agoIt's allowed with the Handshake protocol.
- snazz 6y agoI feel like it should be https://search.google https://search.google instead.
- 1_player 6y agoI reckon Google wouldn't like that, as it would mean "search on Google", as opposed to, say, https://search.bing https://search.bing. It invites the idea of competition and alternative, which of course is bad when you're fighting to have complete monopoly of the "search" concept.
- ffpip 6y agoI tried the same thing 6 months ago.
- CydeWeys 6y agoWhy should it though? And what content would be there? Note that there is an https://about.google https://about.google
- ffpip 6y agoabout.google is about google. blog.google is a blog maintained by google. So google.google should google 'Google' on google for you.
- CydeWeys 6y ago... but that's not even a good joke, and wouldn't be worth the operational costs of launching it. com.google was a joke worthy of launching: https://www.businessinsider.com/search-google-backwards-secret-april-fools-day-trick-2015-4 https://www.businessinsider.com/search-google-backwards-secr... (though not worthy of maintaining once April Fools was over)
- ffpip 6y agoSince I am not familiar with the costs involved, can you say how much would it cost to just redirect google.google to https://www.google.com/search?q=google https://www.google.com/search?q=google ?
- CydeWeys 6y agoIndependent of the costs (which are higher than you might expect), it's just not good practice to create a whole slew of random redirects "just because". There's not a lot of random inbound traffic to "google.google" that plausibly needs redirecting. Indeed, you'd be causing the opposite problem, which is that by creating the redirect, you're now encouraging people to use it, and now you have an additional thing to support that you never really wanted in the first place. Remember that *.google isn't "just" a redirect or a subdomain -- it's a bona fide domain name, requiring registration, ongoing management thereof, an SSL certificate, configuration of automatic renewal thereof, DNS configuration, uptime monitoring, etc. And that's before you even get into any potential concerns re: the public suffix list, HSTS configuration/preloading, and other more esoteric concerns. It ends up not being worth it unless you have a real site that you actually want to launch, or at the minimum, a redirect that you really want to exist that you plan on using widely.
- nkozyra 6y agoI personally want https://elgoog.google/ https://elgoog.google/
- jtvjan 6y agoFor the longest time they had https://com.google/ https://com.google/, which got you a mirrored (flipped on x) version of the site.
- Raed667 6y agoThis will be the future of domains, every major brand will have its own. Instead of pages,we will have unique domains for sub-products and sections. I can see something like `iphone.apple` and `ipad.apple` etc..
- gruez 6y ago...and all because ICANN wanted to get a few million selling TLDs to megacorps.
- Raed667 6y agoI just noticed that my bank already has a "vanity megacorp TLD" https://group.bnpparibas https://group.bnpparibas
- revax 6y agoAlso, https://oui.sncf https://oui.sncf for the main trains operator in France.
- tych0 6y agoBut hey, now I have http://tycho.pizza http://tycho.pizza instead of co-opting .ws. Pizza is great. So there are some silver linings.
- bostonpete 6y agoWhat's the harm?
- ffpip 6y agoMaybe private organizations shouldn't get TLD's named after them?
- CydeWeys 6y agoWhat's the harm though? You're stating this as if it's a priori a bad thing, but it's not. So you need to provide a reason as to why it's actually bad. I can give you some benefits of brand TLDs, though. For starters, the entire .google TLD is HSTS preloaded, so every new site launched on that TLD is instantly HTTPS-only from its very first moments, rather than waiting for potentially many months for users to upgrade their browsers to incorporate new additions of individual domains to the list (which would be your only recourse if you launched a new domain on e.g. .com). And secondly, the .google TLD is closed, meaning no external registrations, so if you see an unfamiliar product.google domain then you immediately know that it's actually Google running it, whereas if you saw an unfamiliar googleproduct.com domain then you'd want to do some due diligence to ensure that you aren't being phished. (I should probably at this point disclose that I run .google, but had no involvement in the larger process at ICANN that resulted in the creation of brand TLDs in the first place. But, given that brand TLDs exist, of course companies would defensively secure the TLDs for their largest brands, and once you have said TLDs, why not use them?)
- hyperdimension 6y agoI think you could actually go full-on Google at this point, sort of like the classic interview question: Type, on a Google-made Pixel Chromebook running Chrome OS into the Chrome browser web browser (pretty sure it doesn't qualify as a 'user agent' any longer,) the word 'google' into the omnibox in order to get to Google to make a search, and your machine communicates over Wi-Fi to your Google Wifi AP, through your Google Fiber connection, to the Google-run 8.8.8.8 DNS resolver, where Google then goes and looks itself up in the DNS. The Google search results page has 'Google' as the first result (AdWords, naturally [resulting in Google paying itself for first placement?]) Clicking on this ad, you finally arrive on the Google Search home page. ... Finally, after all that, you can type in 'Bing' to search for Bing's website, click on their top AdWord result instead of the organic result, just so you can enjoy the "diversity of search engines" there exist today. Or whatever Pichai said to Congress.
- oh_sigh 6y agoOr just type bing.com into the search bar...
- hyperdimension 6y agoI concede your point, but have you never seen anyone google for, e.g. Facebook and click on the top result? I don't think the notion of URLs are in the public consciousness anymore. For more information, look me up on AOL Keyword: learnurls