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Yeah I reckon you can't call one podcast an alt right conspiracy spew without believing "the media is truly independent and always tells the full truth in an un

by leahey 6y ago

Yeah I reckon you can't call one podcast an alt right conspiracy spew without believing "the media is truly independent and always tells the full truth in an unbiased manner, that no alternative media organization has ever legitimately exposed even a single mainstream narrative that was less than truthful."

mikece 6y ago
It seems you conflate "deviating from mainstream media" as being alt-right. I'm sure people like Amy Goodman, Cenk Uygur, Tim Pool, and Ezra Klein would be surprised to learn this puts them firmly in the alt-right. In fact, thinking the mainstream is useless doesn't betoken right or left, only that what the major networks are saying doesn't correspond with reality on the ground.
- leahey 6y ago
  You’ve defined No Agenda or Curry as just being “deviating from mainstream media,” decided that is what I must mean by alt-right, and worked yourself up into a lather about it. How you can determine what I am or am not conflating based on my statement about a single media property and the guy behind it is beyond me. We get it. You’re a fan. You don’t want to be a fan of an alt right guy. That’s your conundrum to work out, not mine.
  - markkanof 6y ago
    Then why don't you actually state what it is about Adam Curry that makes him alt-right in your mind. You have not done that yet.
    - leahey 6y ago
      I've said it several times. Grab an episode of No Agenda and give it a listen. Alternatively, check out any of the times he has filled in for Alex Jones on Infowars; a quick Google turns up the August 9, 2017 episode.
      - markkanof 6y ago
        I've listened to every episode of No Agenda since maybe 2008 or so. Yes, I am a fan, so biased, but I see no real evidence of him fitting any definition of alt-right, but again, since you haven't actually defined what you mean by that or given any concrete examples, I have to assume you are just trolling. Seems wrong though to throw someone into that category since these days many people use the term alt-right as a synonym for racist or Nazi.
      - nailer 6y ago
        You really haven't, despite all the people in this thread asking you repeatedly. "Watch any episode" is vague. Appearing on Infowars, a conspiracy show, doesn't make one a racist. I think at this point we may as well just flag your accusation and move on.
        leahey 6y ago
        Appearing on Infowars does however make you alt-right, which is what I said to begin with. As does hosting an alt-right show. If you want to contend that fraternizing with racists in public doesn't make you a racist yourself, that's an argument you can have with yourself because I won't be a part. There is nothing vague about what I said. He espouses alt-right positions and the conspiracy theories that are hallmarks of that movement, where does he do it? On his show. Where should you go to hear it, should you want to? His show. Just as an aside, flagging a post works without announcing it ahead of time. That isn't in the FAQ so I thought I'd let you know.
        nailer 6y ago
        > Appearing on Infowars does however make you alt-right Why? > If you want to contend that fraternizing with racists in public doesn't make you a racist yourself That's not my argument. Is it yours? > He espouses alt-right positions Which ones? What episode? Is there really so much evidence that you can't point to a single instance? Please don't bother answering that. Just stop wasting everyone's time. You're new on the site. I suggest you stop posting here. > flagging a post works without announcing it ahead of time. Multiple people are trying to engage you, you've been given amply opportunity to answer questions, and you haven't. I'm advising people to just flag your posts.
mistermann 6y ago
Why not? It's a plausible (not impossible) state of reality, is it not? I was just asking, as there are people that truly seem to believe the "mainstream" media is indeed truthful. Some of my relatives, for example.

by leahey 6y ago

mikece 6y ago

It seems you conflate "deviating from mainstream media" as being alt-right. I'm sure people like Amy Goodman, Cenk Uygur, Tim Pool, and Ezra Klein would be surprised to learn this puts them firmly in the alt-right. In fact, thinking the mainstream is useless doesn't betoken right or left, only that what the major networks are saying doesn't correspond with reality on the ground.

leahey 6y ago
You’ve defined No Agenda or Curry as just being “deviating from mainstream media,” decided that is what I must mean by alt-right, and worked yourself up into a lather about it. How you can determine what I am or am not conflating based on my statement about a single media property and the guy behind it is beyond me. We get it. You’re a fan. You don’t want to be a fan of an alt right guy. That’s your conundrum to work out, not mine.
- markkanof 6y ago
  Then why don't you actually state what it is about Adam Curry that makes him alt-right in your mind. You have not done that yet.
  - leahey 6y ago
    I've said it several times. Grab an episode of No Agenda and give it a listen. Alternatively, check out any of the times he has filled in for Alex Jones on Infowars; a quick Google turns up the August 9, 2017 episode.
    - markkanof 6y ago
      I've listened to every episode of No Agenda since maybe 2008 or so. Yes, I am a fan, so biased, but I see no real evidence of him fitting any definition of alt-right, but again, since you haven't actually defined what you mean by that or given any concrete examples, I have to assume you are just trolling. Seems wrong though to throw someone into that category since these days many people use the term alt-right as a synonym for racist or Nazi.
    - nailer 6y ago
      You really haven't, despite all the people in this thread asking you repeatedly. "Watch any episode" is vague. Appearing on Infowars, a conspiracy show, doesn't make one a racist. I think at this point we may as well just flag your accusation and move on.
      - leahey 6y ago
        Appearing on Infowars does however make you alt-right, which is what I said to begin with. As does hosting an alt-right show. If you want to contend that fraternizing with racists in public doesn't make you a racist yourself, that's an argument you can have with yourself because I won't be a part. There is nothing vague about what I said. He espouses alt-right positions and the conspiracy theories that are hallmarks of that movement, where does he do it? On his show. Where should you go to hear it, should you want to? His show. Just as an aside, flagging a post works without announcing it ahead of time. That isn't in the FAQ so I thought I'd let you know.
        nailer 6y ago
        > Appearing on Infowars does however make you alt-right Why? > If you want to contend that fraternizing with racists in public doesn't make you a racist yourself That's not my argument. Is it yours? > He espouses alt-right positions Which ones? What episode? Is there really so much evidence that you can't point to a single instance? Please don't bother answering that. Just stop wasting everyone's time. You're new on the site. I suggest you stop posting here. > flagging a post works without announcing it ahead of time. Multiple people are trying to engage you, you've been given amply opportunity to answer questions, and you haven't. I'm advising people to just flag your posts.

mistermann 6y ago

Why not? It's a plausible (not impossible) state of reality, is it not? I was just asking, as there are people that truly seem to believe the "mainstream" media is indeed truthful. Some of my relatives, for example.