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Technically, most countries are not allowed to recognize the ROC (Tawain) as an independent country but as a Rogue province. The one China policy was accepted

Technically, most countries are not allowed to recognize the ROC (Tawain) as an independent country but as a Rogue province. The one China policy was accepted when the UN removed the ROC in favor of PRC.

hashtagmarkup 6y ago
Yeah, me being right certainly is a can of worms, but continue with your propaganda.
skissane 6y ago
> Technically, most countries are not allowed to recognize the ROC (Tawain) as an independent country but as a Rogue province. If we are talking about international law, governments are free to recognise or refuse to recognise whichever foreign states or governments they want. PRC tries its best to bribe and threaten other countries into not recognising ROC, and mostly succeeds. But that's realpolitik, not international law. Recognition of a state does not imply recognition of all its territorial claims. (For example, the US recognises Australia, but the US doesn't recognise Australia's territorial claims in Antarctica.) So a state could choose to recognise both PRC and ROC simultaneously, while not recognising PRC's claims to Taiwan nor ROC's claims to the mainland. There is nothing in international law which prevents such a policy. The problem is political not legal. ROC doesn't even seriously intend their territorial claims on the mainland any more. The only reason they don't drop them is that PRC would interpret that as an "independence move" and threatens to invade in that case. The political reality is any country announcing recognition of ROC, even if it insists it still maintains its recognition of PRC, is going to have diplomatic relations withdrawn by PRC, and PRC will also try to retaliate in trade/etc. > The one China policy was accepted when the UN removed the ROC in favor of PRC. The UN's policies are not binding on its member states. The UN Secretariat has to follow the will of the majority of its member states as expressed in General Assembly resolutions. But each UN member state is free to choose a different position if that's the decision of their government.
- hashtagmarkup 6y ago
  We can all choose to do anything... but, there are consequences that come with those choices. You chose to spread propaganda rather than concede that I'm technically right. This entire argument is pointless. TSMC pays Chinese Tax through their subsidiary in Shanghai. How can you claim they aren't Chinese? Do you even know what the C stands for in all your acronyms?
  - kjs3 6y ago
    You do seem to be an expert in 'propaganda'. North America is the same as South America, because they both have America in the name, right? And I pay taxes on my Costa Rican subsidiary in Costa Rica...so Costa Rica owns the United States, right? Do tell us about those 'consequences' your threatening. Gonna send us to one of your concentration camps out West for 'reeducation'? Just...sad.
    - hashtagmarkup 6y ago
      You do seem to be a smug moron who doesn't understand where "China" is, or the difference between "your" and "you're". You don't need reeducation... you need a first dose of education. Just...dumb.

hashtagmarkup 6y ago

Yeah, me being right certainly is a can of worms, but continue with your propaganda.

skissane 6y ago

> Technically, most countries are not allowed to recognize the ROC (Tawain) as an independent country but as a Rogue province. If we are talking about international law, governments are free to recognise or refuse to recognise whichever foreign states or governments they want. PRC tries its best to bribe and threaten other countries into not recognising ROC, and mostly succeeds. But that's realpolitik, not international law. Recognition of a state does not imply recognition of all its territorial claims. (For example, the US recognises Australia, but the US doesn't recognise Australia's territorial claims in Antarctica.) So a state could choose to recognise both PRC and ROC simultaneously, while not recognising PRC's claims to Taiwan nor ROC's claims to the mainland. There is nothing in international law which prevents such a policy. The problem is political not legal. ROC doesn't even seriously intend their territorial claims on the mainland any more. The only reason they don't drop them is that PRC would interpret that as an "independence move" and threatens to invade in that case. The political reality is any country announcing recognition of ROC, even if it insists it still maintains its recognition of PRC, is going to have diplomatic relations withdrawn by PRC, and PRC will also try to retaliate in trade/etc. > The one China policy was accepted when the UN removed the ROC in favor of PRC. The UN's policies are not binding on its member states. The UN Secretariat has to follow the will of the majority of its member states as expressed in General Assembly resolutions. But each UN member state is free to choose a different position if that's the decision of their government.

hashtagmarkup 6y ago
We can all choose to do anything... but, there are consequences that come with those choices. You chose to spread propaganda rather than concede that I'm technically right. This entire argument is pointless. TSMC pays Chinese Tax through their subsidiary in Shanghai. How can you claim they aren't Chinese? Do you even know what the C stands for in all your acronyms?
- kjs3 6y ago
  You do seem to be an expert in 'propaganda'. North America is the same as South America, because they both have America in the name, right? And I pay taxes on my Costa Rican subsidiary in Costa Rica...so Costa Rica owns the United States, right? Do tell us about those 'consequences' your threatening. Gonna send us to one of your concentration camps out West for 'reeducation'? Just...sad.
  - hashtagmarkup 6y ago
    You do seem to be a smug moron who doesn't understand where "China" is, or the difference between "your" and "you're". You don't need reeducation... you need a first dose of education. Just...dumb.