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To be fair, you may not have much of a choice in the future. We see things that used to just be built in to purchase pricing (say, Apple Carplay) becoming sub

To be fair, you may not have much of a choice in the future. We see things that used to just be built in to purchase pricing (say, Apple Carplay) becoming subscription unlocked in brands like BMW. BMW backed down this year (2020) but once the first shot is fired... Since oncall and other services showed consumers are willing to incur ongoing fees, I think we'll see each part of the car beyond safety features tied to a sub model with no option to just purchase unless mandated by law.

segmondy 6y ago
It's not Apple CarPay that was the first shot fired but Apple App Store.
KozmoNau7 6y ago
You have the choice of not buying a car with that type of subscription features for quite some time yet, factoring in base models, non-premium brands, the used market and so on. Like with a lot of features, this will be introduced on so-called premium brands first. Unless you insist on having one of those (which you would probably lease anyway), you can easily avoid dodgy subscription features.
- sam_lowry_ 6y ago
  Luckily there is still some competition in the automotive industry. Software-wise, we already lost to monopolies of FAANG. The privileged few use Open Source and distributed sharing platforms, but the general public has little choice but pay recurrent and ever increasing fees.
  - asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
    What fees do faang companies charge on an ongoing basis that can be avoided only using OSS, in a legal manner?
    - ginko 6y ago
      Your data.
kordlessagain 6y ago
> you may not have much of a choice in the future I have a choice because I choose to have options, but many consumers won't care or understand options are limited to them if they don't take a stand for their choices. If people who work at these companies want to continue to rationalize these models are ethical, then that is their choice as well. They just shouldn't be surprised when their models are pulled out from under their feet later.

segmondy 6y ago

It's not Apple CarPay that was the first shot fired but Apple App Store.

KozmoNau7 6y ago

You have the choice of not buying a car with that type of subscription features for quite some time yet, factoring in base models, non-premium brands, the used market and so on. Like with a lot of features, this will be introduced on so-called premium brands first. Unless you insist on having one of those (which you would probably lease anyway), you can easily avoid dodgy subscription features.

sam_lowry_ 6y ago
Luckily there is still some competition in the automotive industry. Software-wise, we already lost to monopolies of FAANG. The privileged few use Open Source and distributed sharing platforms, but the general public has little choice but pay recurrent and ever increasing fees.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 6y ago
  What fees do faang companies charge on an ongoing basis that can be avoided only using OSS, in a legal manner?
  - ginko 6y ago
    Your data.

kordlessagain 6y ago

> you may not have much of a choice in the future I have a choice because I choose to have options, but many consumers won't care or understand options are limited to them if they don't take a stand for their choices. If people who work at these companies want to continue to rationalize these models are ethical, then that is their choice as well. They just shouldn't be surprised when their models are pulled out from under their feet later.