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To be blunt, this is just more words with few of them explaining why any of this stuff is bad. Where is the actual real world harm? Everyone leaving a data wa

by treis 6y ago

To be blunt, this is just more words with few of them explaining why any of this stuff is bad. Where is the actual real world harm? Everyone leaving a data wake, as you describe it, is a good thing if you're not committing crimes and/or are the victim of one. As an example, we had case locally where an elderly couple were found dead from arson in their house. The cops arrested the Son and he spent 9 months in jail until the geofence warrant came back from Google. There was a hit in the house 20 minutes before the 911 call. Son is released and the real killer arrested. Without that data wake that story (probably) ends up with the son in jail for life and the real killer free. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ajc.com/news/man-no-longer-charged-in-parents-gruesome-deaths-in-atlanta-new-suspect-arrested/OWCX5CVVF5FBZGZAGYA3A5FCZM/%3foutputType=amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ajc.com/news/man-no-longer-...

imglorp 6y ago
Are you asking why humans need privacy? If you've done nothing wrong then nothing to hide? So yes open society might stop a crime. But at what cost? Big essay [0] below. But my top points are: * The Panopticon experiment shows that constant surveillance has deleterious effects on all people, not just "bad" ones. It is a form of control. [1] * Authoritarian regimes everywhere deploy information apparatus to control their people. Eg the Stasi [2], and now everywhere. Do you really want to participate in a global, authoritarian, totalitarian society? That's what we're building here. "Those Who Would Give Up Liberty for Safety, Deserve Neither" 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument 1. https://exploringyourmind.com/the-panopticon-effect-someones-watching-you/ https://exploringyourmind.com/the-panopticon-effect-someones... 2. https://www.bstu.de/en/the-stasi/introduction/ https://www.bstu.de/en/the-stasi/introduction/

by treis 6y ago

imglorp 6y ago

Are you asking why humans need privacy? If you've done nothing wrong then nothing to hide? So yes open society might stop a crime. But at what cost? Big essay [0] below. But my top points are: * The Panopticon experiment shows that constant surveillance has deleterious effects on all people, not just "bad" ones. It is a form of control. [1] * Authoritarian regimes everywhere deploy information apparatus to control their people. Eg the Stasi [2], and now everywhere. Do you really want to participate in a global, authoritarian, totalitarian society? That's what we're building here. "Those Who Would Give Up Liberty for Safety, Deserve Neither" 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument 1. https://exploringyourmind.com/the-panopticon-effect-someones-watching-you/ https://exploringyourmind.com/the-panopticon-effect-someones... 2. https://www.bstu.de/en/the-stasi/introduction/ https://www.bstu.de/en/the-stasi/introduction/