> First, I’d like to say I think starting with Ruby/Rails is a bad idea. It's telling that comments like this inevitably involve Rails, not plain Ruby. Rails'

> First, I’d like to say I think starting with Ruby/Rails is a bad idea. It's telling that comments like this inevitably involve Rails, not plain Ruby. Rails's "magick" is obfuscatory and at times counter-intuitive. Ruby, the language, is pretty straightforward. I wish more people spent time playing with Ruby before diving into Rails.