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> You can’t possibly know what a company you join will be like until you actually have been working there 12 months Does it actually take you 12 months, or did
by etripe 6y ago
> You can’t possibly know what a company you join will be like until you actually have been working there 12 months
Does it actually take you 12 months, or did you mean that as a measured, sensible statement? Or are you perhaps looking at it from a bi-directional loyalty or advancement perspective and not just general culture?
For me, that would only apply to companies that I interpret as middling/unimpressive at first glance. The really good or bad companies stick out much more, so I can usually tell by the hiring and onboarding processes and the first couple of tasks you're given, even as a consultant.
- quickthrower2 6y agoI don’t see how you can know he team dynamics and politics (all companies have politics) before joining somewhere unless you have a friend working there. And even then what they pick up on might be different to you. I’ve seen a company I haven’t worked for but who was on my radar go from hero company that employees loved to mass walkout not soon after that was bought out. Buy outs are a big factor plus reshuffles of management and teams. Not only that, I’ve had excellent vibes at places in the first 6 months to find out the asshole factor is high later on too. Also without any of this stuff just changes, and I don”t see how that is avoidable. Change is constant! MMMV.
- etripe 6y agoPlease note I wasn't saying _before joining_, either. I agree on your points, though.