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Inkscape 1.0.1

136 points by constantinum 6y ago

chromedev 6y ago
I absolutely love Inkscape for complex artwork, however I wish it would try to implement better conversion to the official web spec. After saving, I find myself manually optimizing the SVG and sometimes redoing it completely to remove a lot of fluff that isn't needed.
- toper-centage 6y ago
  Just save as plain svg or optimised svg then?
- ygra 6y ago
  Save As > Plain SVG or Optimized SVG should remove the things you don't need. You tend to have control over everything else directly in Inkscape.
  - asddubs 6y ago
    that'll still generate a ton of unnecessary inline styles
    - azeirah 6y ago
      Don't know if these work, but iirc there are several svg optimization/simplifiers available as JS libraries on npm and github. Is there something there that would help, perhaps?
      - tomcooks 6y ago
        Svgo helps a lot, I always use it to reduce the size of my SVG files, otherwise a couple of plaintext substitution get rid of all inline styles in a swift Vim macro
- jarek-foksa 6y ago
  You might want to try Boxy SVG [1]. Its UI is heavily inspired by Inkscape. It tries to use as little non-standard namespaces as possible, e.g. check [2] for a comparison of the markup you get after creating a new file and drawing a single rectangle. The app uses Chromium rendering engine under the hood, so most files should render the same way as when opened with Chrome. [1] https://boxy-svg.com https://boxy-svg.com [2] https://gist.github.com/jarek-foksa/8f5bdef732827bc2a3bf49e3e25dc630 https://gist.github.com/jarek-foksa/8f5bdef732827bc2a3bf49e3...
  - tomcam 6y ago
    Can confirm Boxy is well worth its minuscule price. It’s also very fast.
    - jansan 6y ago
      Some of the operations are unbearably slow if images become more complex. It seems to be using paper.js, which works but is not really famous for high performance with complex paths.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    And on the Web it is a classical example of "Works only on Chrome", oh well.
    - jarek-foksa 6y ago
      It works on the latest version of any Chromium-based browser such as Chrome, Vivaldi, Opera, Edge, etc.
      - pjmlp 6y ago
        Chromium is Chrome with another book cover.
      - gvjddbnvdrbv 6y ago
        All of these are just skins over Google's code. Does even Microsoft make any meaningful contribution to Chromium?
- rriepe 6y ago
  Agreed. I love Inkscape but I can't use it without svgo.
- aspaviento 6y ago
  Jake Archibald has a great tool to clean SVGs https://jakearchibald.github.io/svgomg/ https://jakearchibald.github.io/svgomg/
krzat 6y ago
I like Inscape but I wish they added GPU acceleration, at least for moving things. It's unbearably slow on macOS.
- JonathonW 6y ago
  Have they finally started shipping builds for Mac that don't depend on X11 to run? Because that'd be a prerequisite for performing halfway decently on macOS. Inkscape is (speaking generally here, not just about performance) pretty good on Linux, tolerable on Windows, and awful on Mac. That's kind of a hole that a lot of cross-platform apps get stuck in, though-- especially GTK apps (which, historically, haven't supported the Mac well at all), but even QT (which at least tries to automatically adapt to macOS idioms) doesn't quite get it right. MacOS UI conventions are just too far away from Windows and Linux conventions to expect to be able to get them for free.
  - dybber 6y ago
    What are the problems with Qt on Mac?
  - bilegeek 6y ago
    I can confirm that the Mac version doesn't require X11.
  - JMTQp8lwXL 6y ago
    Would it be possible to ship something like Inkscape with a web/browser interface?
    - jansan 6y ago
      Yes, browsers (especially Chrome) are capable of doing this. There are a few browser based vector editors (Gravit, Method Draw, Vectr, Janvas, Boxy). None of them is perfect, some are slow, and especially when it comes to complex drawings or advanced features like boolean operations and path offsetting, most of them run into serious issues. But you can expect to see a browser based Inkscape replacement within the next two years.
LockAndLol 6y ago
Didn't even know it hit v1. A lot of work went into a patch release though, including features. Seems a little nonstandard, but good job.
- tomhoward 6y ago
  It's had plenty of coverage here! Inkscape 1.0 – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23089820 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23089820 (533 points/4 months ago/123 comments) Inkscape 1.0 – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071185 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071185 (98 points/4 months ago/6 comments) Inkscape 1.0 Release Candidate – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22855357 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22855357 (710 points/5 months ago/156 comments) Inkscape 1.0 Beta 1 – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21001969 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21001969 (603 points/12 months ago/165 comments) Inkscape launches versions 0.92.4 and 1.0 alpha – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18940568 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18940568 (299 points/2 years ago/68 comments)

136 points by constantinum 6y ago

I absolutely love Inkscape for complex artwork, however I wish it would try to implement better conversion to the official web spec. After saving, I find myself manually optimizing the SVG and sometimes redoing it completely to remove a lot of fluff that isn't needed.

toper-centage 6y ago
Just save as plain svg or optimised svg then?
ygra 6y ago
Save As > Plain SVG or Optimized SVG should remove the things you don't need. You tend to have control over everything else directly in Inkscape.
- asddubs 6y ago
  that'll still generate a ton of unnecessary inline styles
  - azeirah 6y ago
    Don't know if these work, but iirc there are several svg optimization/simplifiers available as JS libraries on npm and github. Is there something there that would help, perhaps?
    - tomcooks 6y ago
      Svgo helps a lot, I always use it to reduce the size of my SVG files, otherwise a couple of plaintext substitution get rid of all inline styles in a swift Vim macro
jarek-foksa 6y ago
You might want to try Boxy SVG [1]. Its UI is heavily inspired by Inkscape. It tries to use as little non-standard namespaces as possible, e.g. check [2] for a comparison of the markup you get after creating a new file and drawing a single rectangle. The app uses Chromium rendering engine under the hood, so most files should render the same way as when opened with Chrome. [1] https://boxy-svg.com https://boxy-svg.com [2] https://gist.github.com/jarek-foksa/8f5bdef732827bc2a3bf49e3e25dc630 https://gist.github.com/jarek-foksa/8f5bdef732827bc2a3bf49e3...
- tomcam 6y ago
  Can confirm Boxy is well worth its minuscule price. It’s also very fast.
  - jansan 6y ago
    Some of the operations are unbearably slow if images become more complex. It seems to be using paper.js, which works but is not really famous for high performance with complex paths.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  And on the Web it is a classical example of "Works only on Chrome", oh well.
  - jarek-foksa 6y ago
    It works on the latest version of any Chromium-based browser such as Chrome, Vivaldi, Opera, Edge, etc.
    - pjmlp 6y ago
      Chromium is Chrome with another book cover.
    - gvjddbnvdrbv 6y ago
      All of these are just skins over Google's code. Does even Microsoft make any meaningful contribution to Chromium?
rriepe 6y ago
Agreed. I love Inkscape but I can't use it without svgo.
aspaviento 6y ago
Jake Archibald has a great tool to clean SVGs https://jakearchibald.github.io/svgomg/ https://jakearchibald.github.io/svgomg/

krzat 6y ago

I like Inscape but I wish they added GPU acceleration, at least for moving things. It's unbearably slow on macOS.

JonathonW 6y ago
Have they finally started shipping builds for Mac that don't depend on X11 to run? Because that'd be a prerequisite for performing halfway decently on macOS. Inkscape is (speaking generally here, not just about performance) pretty good on Linux, tolerable on Windows, and awful on Mac. That's kind of a hole that a lot of cross-platform apps get stuck in, though-- especially GTK apps (which, historically, haven't supported the Mac well at all), but even QT (which at least tries to automatically adapt to macOS idioms) doesn't quite get it right. MacOS UI conventions are just too far away from Windows and Linux conventions to expect to be able to get them for free.
- dybber 6y ago
  What are the problems with Qt on Mac?
- bilegeek 6y ago
  I can confirm that the Mac version doesn't require X11.
- JMTQp8lwXL 6y ago
  Would it be possible to ship something like Inkscape with a web/browser interface?
  - jansan 6y ago
    Yes, browsers (especially Chrome) are capable of doing this. There are a few browser based vector editors (Gravit, Method Draw, Vectr, Janvas, Boxy). None of them is perfect, some are slow, and especially when it comes to complex drawings or advanced features like boolean operations and path offsetting, most of them run into serious issues. But you can expect to see a browser based Inkscape replacement within the next two years.

LockAndLol 6y ago

Didn't even know it hit v1. A lot of work went into a patch release though, including features. Seems a little nonstandard, but good job.

tomhoward 6y ago
It's had plenty of coverage here! Inkscape 1.0 – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23089820 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23089820 (533 points/4 months ago/123 comments) Inkscape 1.0 – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071185 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23071185 (98 points/4 months ago/6 comments) Inkscape 1.0 Release Candidate – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22855357 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22855357 (710 points/5 months ago/156 comments) Inkscape 1.0 Beta 1 – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21001969 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21001969 (603 points/12 months ago/165 comments) Inkscape launches versions 0.92.4 and 1.0 alpha – https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18940568 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18940568 (299 points/2 years ago/68 comments)