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That kind of depends on the price pr gb. To use the power analogy, when I was young the price of power was relatively high but in recent times it has now dropp
by tyfon 6y ago
That kind of depends on the price pr gb.
To use the power analogy, when I was young the price of power was relatively high but in recent times it has now dropped to 0.6 NOK / kWh so even charging the car from 10-80% (~61 kWh) cost 40 NOK or $4. I do not get mad at the kids leaving the light on like my mother did to me.
I (or rather my job) currently pays about 1000 NOK/ month for unlimited 500 MBit synchronous fiber internet. I transfer maybe 500 GB/month so for it to be cheaper for me it would be under 2 NOK/GB or $.2 which sounds really high but that is what I currently pay with my usage.
- Dahoon 6y agoI thought internet in Norway was cheaper than in Denmark. Interesting. For comparison I pay 449 DKR/month for 1000/1000 unlimited fiber with a guaranteed bandwidth of minimum 950 (they are upgrading the network atm. hence not a guarantee on the full 1000 yet as some customers equipment is too old). Is it a normal connection or a business connection perhaps?
- iso947 6y agoBandwidth to where? Do they really have 1gbit per customer peering with say level3? And with cogent, and telia? And a full non blocking internal network? And enough packet buffers to ensure that microbursts don’t saturate any link?
- ShroudedNight 6y agoDepending on the SLA, or lack thereof, they could have enough peering for a sustained +(x = 3?)σ demand spike without having a full dedicated peering for each customer, and still reasonably guarantee throughput availability.
- iso947 6y agoEven ignoring peering, I’m still trying to picture the non blocking network. An Arista 7368X4 isn’t cheap, but will cope with 12,000 customers with appropriate switches downstream (128x100G ports with each port breaking out to 96 customers. Not sure how you’d scale beyond that without blocking. Your peering will only scale to your (combined) interface speed regardless of your SLA. Our 2x 40G peer with level 3 serve far more than 40 1G devices (I personally have 600 in one building alone, and that sets aside the rest of the users), but it’s rare it’s more than 30% utilised. Clearly that’s not going to be a domestic isp architecture, so a reasonable question is what does uncontended actually mean. I very much doubt an isp with 10,000 customers has 10TB of peering physically available. Linx public peering is less than half that for the entire UK, and while private peering will likely increase that, the suggest is it’s welll under tenfold, so the 50 million plus internet users in the UK only use at peak times 1M each, and that ignores all the non-domestic use. Even a 100:1 contention ratio seems enough at a core level, so any isp spending money on improving on 10:1 ratios seems that they are just burning cash. Clearly as you go the the edge contention ratio needs to drop - but 40G, or maybe even 20G uplink for 48x1G users would be reasonable to me.
- fomine3 6y ago> guaranteed bandwidth of minimum 950 Wow really interesting to see such high (assume Mbps) bandwidth guarantee for consumer service. Is the guarantee really work?
- tyfon 6y agoIt's a normal connection (Altibox). I'm allowed to runs services and whatnot on it though I mostly use it for data analytics and downloading large datasets.
- wolco 6y agoYou pay for peace of mind that little Johnny doesn't download some crazy amount by accident. Now you don't have to monitor family usage so that makes things easier as well.
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- em-bee 6y agoi had per gb pricing in new zealand. the key feature to address your issue was that i could set an upper limit, so, say start throttling the connection once i reach $50. that's the same that other ISPs would do anyways once i reached a certain amount of usage, but with this ISP i decided the limit and i could change it at any time. the price was competitive too. other ISPs charged $70 per month, and had a limit of 50gb (that was 15 years ago) my ISP charged $20 as base fee and $1 per gb of usage. if i used less than 50gb, i saved money, if i used more then i could...
- efreak 6y agoIt's unfortunate that cellular providers don't offer this. I get around it by setting my data connection to prefer 3g. It helps with a 500mb limit (data is expensive on cheap plans), but it'd be nice to be able to throttle apps individually (no, I do not want video ads to be downloaded, but internet connectivity is required for the app to work online. A HN client with webview, for example)