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> I say it all the time, but I think a lot of power vi/emacs users have not touched a modern IDE in a long time. Watch as my eyes roll out of my head, onto the
by RandoHolmes 6y ago
> I say it all the time, but I think a lot of power vi/emacs users have not touched a modern IDE in a long time.
Watch as my eyes roll out of my head, onto the floor, and then out the door.
Why is it that you believe the only reason why a vi/emacs user could believe those environments are faster to edit in is because they don't use IDE's?
The worst part is that most vi/emacs users actually DO have experience in both environments, whereas most of the people who want to claim vi/emacs isn't any faster don't. Yet they want to present themselves as an authority.
And I'm one of the people who refuse to use vim emulators in IDE's because they're never quite right (and never integrate well with the IDE).
- brandonmenc 6y ago> Why is it that you believe the only reason why a vi/emacs user could believe those environments are faster to edit in is because they don't use IDE's? Anecdotal, personal experience, including seeing constant outright incorrect claims about graphical IDEs in threads like these. The claims usually take the form of: "I use vi/emacs because I can do xyz using only the keyboard" - where xyz is something that most IDEs maybe couldn't do 15+ years ago, but which they all can do today.
- RandoHolmes 6y agoI see this a lot from those who prefer IDE's. It's not generally that people are saying it's impossible to do in an IDE, just that it's slower to do, and generally more awkward. Just the other day on reddit I was having this "discussion" with someone, in which they claimed that because they have "find in files" in their IDE it's equivalent to vim `grep -iRl whatever`. In reality I'm going to do what you're trying to do in a fraction of the time. IDE's have their advantages, but speed is not one of them.