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> Sure you can replicate this on zoom, but it's just not quite the same as sitting across from someone reading their body language. I see this as a positive, n

> Sure you can replicate this on zoom, but it's just not quite the same as sitting across from someone reading their body language. I see this as a positive, no need to read body language for most tech company meetings - while troubleshooting a network issue, doing code review or talking through a new feature. It may be different for HR or a law firm, where its about "judging your opponent" or similar double speak but 99% of tech meetings can easily be replicated over zoom and are better of without any of that anyway.

jedberg 6y ago
This is a very engineering way to look at things. But it's definitely wrong. Even in a code review it's important to see their body language. How are they receiving your feedback? Are they uncomfortable? Do you need to change they way you address your concerns so they can be heard better? Not everyone communicates like you do. If you want to be an effective communicator, you have have to tailor your output to the recipient. Body language is an important part of that.
- ldoughty 6y ago
  I agree with this counterview. I manage a small dev team, I've found many inexperienced developers are less willing to admit an issue in understanding a tasks requirements (or how to complete a task) during a zoom call, especially when there is an audience (even +1 additional person). I try to read body language to gauge if I need to explain further without putting people on the spot. I can usually can get by with video-on Zoom calls, but that's still a bit different... I can't make eye contact with a specific person and judge the reaction since they don't know who I'm looking at
  - icebraining 6y ago
    I'm guessing we'll have that feature in the near future. iOS already "fixes" your eyes so that it appears you're looking at the camera despite looking at the screen. From there to detecting who you are looking at, and adjusting the image just for that person, seems quite feasible.

jedberg 6y ago

This is a very engineering way to look at things. But it's definitely wrong. Even in a code review it's important to see their body language. How are they receiving your feedback? Are they uncomfortable? Do you need to change they way you address your concerns so they can be heard better? Not everyone communicates like you do. If you want to be an effective communicator, you have have to tailor your output to the recipient. Body language is an important part of that.

ldoughty 6y ago
I agree with this counterview. I manage a small dev team, I've found many inexperienced developers are less willing to admit an issue in understanding a tasks requirements (or how to complete a task) during a zoom call, especially when there is an audience (even +1 additional person). I try to read body language to gauge if I need to explain further without putting people on the spot. I can usually can get by with video-on Zoom calls, but that's still a bit different... I can't make eye contact with a specific person and judge the reaction since they don't know who I'm looking at
- icebraining 6y ago
  I'm guessing we'll have that feature in the near future. iOS already "fixes" your eyes so that it appears you're looking at the camera despite looking at the screen. From there to detecting who you are looking at, and adjusting the image just for that person, seems quite feasible.