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I'm going to go against the vibe on this site and agree with him. The next Apple or Google definitely will not come from a remote working startup, and there's u

I'm going to go against the vibe on this site and agree with him. The next Apple or Google definitely will not come from a remote working startup, and there's undoubtedly a lot of value from in-person collaboration. In a bigger company like Netflix this might be less important. A big part of this is the transfer of knowledge, which isn't as easy over Zoom calls.

29athrowaway 6y ago
I bet the next Apple or Google will use Linux, an operating system developed by a globally distributed remote team, or other open source technologies.
- znpy 6y ago
  Uhm... You're vastly underestimating the amount of work that companies like red hat and size put into both GNU and Linux. Yes many of the maintainers and key people are allowed to work remotely, but a lot more people work in the office. I don't want to against the general WFH vibe, but that statement is hardly 100% true.
  - RandoHolmes 6y ago
    Unless those companies are all in the same building, that's also distributed...
    - znpy 6y ago
      Lol ok I guess?
- walshemj 6y ago
  And you point is Linux is a commodity bet they will use structured cabling also. You don't get a paradime busting product without a tight co-located team
  - 29athrowaway 6y ago
    You mean paradigm. The current deficiencies in remote work will create opportunities for new products to fill those gaps. I find it nonsensical for people to commute 1 hour only to sit in front of a computer that is connected to the Internet. And, lately, that computer happens to be the same you could use at home: a laptop, making it even more nonsensical. Saturating streets with 5 seat cars with one occupant in them, cars that do not even need to be there anyways, creates a miserable urban experience for everyone. Working from home also makes people focus on deliverables rather than superficial aspects of work: clothes, haircut, fitness, etc. Plus, I don't think "I want to see face muscles moving" (something you can do using a camera anyways) is a proper justification for ruining the environment. The #1 challenge of the 21st century is how to make each human have a lower carbon footprint, and working from home fits well into that narrative. Unless you seek a physical intimacy or violence with your coworkers I don't see the need for being in the same room.

29athrowaway 6y ago

I bet the next Apple or Google will use Linux, an operating system developed by a globally distributed remote team, or other open source technologies.

znpy 6y ago
Uhm... You're vastly underestimating the amount of work that companies like red hat and size put into both GNU and Linux. Yes many of the maintainers and key people are allowed to work remotely, but a lot more people work in the office. I don't want to against the general WFH vibe, but that statement is hardly 100% true.
- RandoHolmes 6y ago
  Unless those companies are all in the same building, that's also distributed...
  - znpy 6y ago
    Lol ok I guess?
walshemj 6y ago
And you point is Linux is a commodity bet they will use structured cabling also. You don't get a paradime busting product without a tight co-located team
- 29athrowaway 6y ago
  You mean paradigm. The current deficiencies in remote work will create opportunities for new products to fill those gaps. I find it nonsensical for people to commute 1 hour only to sit in front of a computer that is connected to the Internet. And, lately, that computer happens to be the same you could use at home: a laptop, making it even more nonsensical. Saturating streets with 5 seat cars with one occupant in them, cars that do not even need to be there anyways, creates a miserable urban experience for everyone. Working from home also makes people focus on deliverables rather than superficial aspects of work: clothes, haircut, fitness, etc. Plus, I don't think "I want to see face muscles moving" (something you can do using a camera anyways) is a proper justification for ruining the environment. The #1 challenge of the 21st century is how to make each human have a lower carbon footprint, and working from home fits well into that narrative. Unless you seek a physical intimacy or violence with your coworkers I don't see the need for being in the same room.