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Photos would help. Anyone have a link to any?

clouddrover 6y ago
Yes, and a video: https://www.flightglobal.com/aerospace/flying-v-model-embarks-on-first-test-flight-with-airbus-support/139999.article https://www.flightglobal.com/aerospace/flying-v-model-embark... It's a scale model that flew, not an actual aircraft. It's an interesting idea though.
- hobofan 6y ago
  Neither article addresses the flaw that always comes up when this design is proposed: By placing the passengers in the wings instead of the the middle, the would be exposed to much stronger turbulence (probably at a level unbearable for the general public).
  - vidanay 6y ago
    Forget turbulence. Normal flight characteristics would be unbearable. Some of the approaches to Chicago Midway airport have ~45 degree bank angles.
    - ginko 6y ago
      Why would this be unbearable further outside on the wing? Wouldn't the angle still be the same for everyone on the plane?
      - vidanay 6y ago
        The angle isn't the problem, it's the 40' vertical drop for the passenger near the wing tips.
        mrfusion 6y ago
        What could be a solution would be the ability to angle the winglets up or down and use those for your banking instead of the body.
        p_l 6y ago
        The turning will cause banking, or just lead you to a stall unless you have ridiculously słów turn rate (bad idea)
    - upofadown 6y ago
      The bank angle wouldn't be the problem. It would be more the change in roll rate. People don't have problems when the elevator is in constant motion. It's the start and stop that cause the feelings. It probably wouldn't be all that hard to build some sort of rate of rate of roll limit into the flight control. Or just have the pilot smoothly move the stick to the desired rate of roll rather than snapping it to the desired position. They are severely limited in what they can do with pitch when there are passengers. This would be a relatively minor limit to what they can do with roll.
- wrkronmiller 6y ago
  That model is significantly smaller than the CNN article led me to believe.
rwmj 6y ago
Here's a youtube video of the model from the KLM official channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFoc8wbuasM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFoc8wbuasM

Yes, and a video: https://www.flightglobal.com/aerospace/flying-v-model-embarks-on-first-test-flight-with-airbus-support/139999.article https://www.flightglobal.com/aerospace/flying-v-model-embark... It's a scale model that flew, not an actual aircraft. It's an interesting idea though.

hobofan 6y ago
Neither article addresses the flaw that always comes up when this design is proposed: By placing the passengers in the wings instead of the the middle, the would be exposed to much stronger turbulence (probably at a level unbearable for the general public).
- vidanay 6y ago
  Forget turbulence. Normal flight characteristics would be unbearable. Some of the approaches to Chicago Midway airport have ~45 degree bank angles.
  - ginko 6y ago
    Why would this be unbearable further outside on the wing? Wouldn't the angle still be the same for everyone on the plane?
    - vidanay 6y ago
      The angle isn't the problem, it's the 40' vertical drop for the passenger near the wing tips.
      - mrfusion 6y ago
        What could be a solution would be the ability to angle the winglets up or down and use those for your banking instead of the body.
        p_l 6y ago
        The turning will cause banking, or just lead you to a stall unless you have ridiculously słów turn rate (bad idea)
  - upofadown 6y ago
    The bank angle wouldn't be the problem. It would be more the change in roll rate. People don't have problems when the elevator is in constant motion. It's the start and stop that cause the feelings. It probably wouldn't be all that hard to build some sort of rate of rate of roll limit into the flight control. Or just have the pilot smoothly move the stick to the desired rate of roll rather than snapping it to the desired position. They are severely limited in what they can do with pitch when there are passengers. This would be a relatively minor limit to what they can do with roll.
wrkronmiller 6y ago
That model is significantly smaller than the CNN article led me to believe.

rwmj 6y ago

Here's a youtube video of the model from the KLM official channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFoc8wbuasM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFoc8wbuasM