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I don't see what this has to do with millennials. Leaving aside that "achievement medals" were generally made for the sake of the parents and not the child, it
by geofft 6y ago
I don't see what this has to do with millennials. Leaving aside that "achievement medals" were generally made for the sake of the parents and not the child, it certainly wasn't millennials who came up with, say, the idea that banks should have thousands of vice presidents.
In any case, it is absolutely possible to have significant domain expertise in software engineering two years out of school. When you're seeing results of the things you build within minutes, you can pick up experience quickly. I agree that you still have a lot to learn, and I did, but I was meaningfully capable of providing technical leadership two years out of school.
- aronpye 6y agoNo, but millennials sure do demand such titles.
- geofft 6y agoOnly in the sense that we demand to be judged by our knowledge and ability and not by our age. If you're going to make a title and say "nobody's eligible for this until they're 40," we'll certainly try to prove you wrong. If you don't make the title, millennials as a group aren't going to care.
- aronpye 6y agoExpertise and experience is broadly correlated. Titles should also be earned, and that requires time in order to deliver work in multiple scenarios that proves your abilities.
- geofft 6y agoThey are broadly correlated, yes, but you can absolutely spend 20 years learning nothing and 1 learning a lot. Do you think that the writer of this article has not earned their title? If you didn't know about the number of years, would you still come to the same conclusion? Maybe another way of putting this is - leaving aside the word "senior," do you agree that the writer of this article has some skills that people new to the industry do not?
- aronpye 6y ago> do you agree that the writer of this article has some skills that people new to the industry do not? No, not really from what I have gleaned from that article. Most of his knowledge seems to be surface level chauffeur knowledge, he never talks about fundamental data and instructions beneath the abstractions. However, it is not fair for me to judge him based on one article alone and without reviewing his work, I’m talking in a more general sense.
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- darkerside 6y agoYou can generally replace the word millennials with people without changing the accuracy of the statement. Your statement is a good example.