Phoenix is necessary for the success of Elixir absolutely. Because languages at this level of abstraction need a web framework to thrive. I'm not sure I find E

Phoenix is necessary for the success of Elixir absolutely. Because languages at this level of abstraction need a web framework to thrive. I'm not sure I find Ecto and Phoenix as central to Elixirs value proposition in general. I'm looking a lot at Nerves (IoT) and Membrane (media serving). Having a strong web framework simplifies things and Phoenix is good there. But there are a lot of things to like about Elixir/Erlang/BEAM.