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Not to be "that guy", but this references Windows XP which was released 19 years ago. I also think you don't need to keep referring to phones as PDA. You can j

Not to be "that guy", but this references Windows XP which was released 19 years ago. I also think you don't need to keep referring to phones as PDA. You can just say that cell phones merged with what we used to call PDAs, or became more PDA-like. Somebody in a coma since 2000 would get that.

phone8675309 6y ago
According to the Wikipedia article on Windows XP[0] > At PDC on July 13, 2000, Microsoft announced that Whistler would be released during the second half of 2001, and also unveiled the first preview build, 2250. The build notably introduced an early version of Windows XP's visual styles system. > Whistler was officially unveiled during a media event on February 5, 2001, under the name Windows XP, where XP stands for "eXPerience". So while the product wasn't released until 2001, the codename and preview builds for developers were already released. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP
- robotron 6y ago
  And the Dev builds were out in the wild.
StavrosK 6y ago
Don't worry, the reference has-will be understood next year.
flashman 6y ago
Same with BitTorrent: first released in July 2001
- not2b 6y ago
  GPS became available to the public in May 2000, so it was brand new and past self might not be familiar with it.
  - ipython 6y ago
    GPS was available earlier to the public; I had a delorme rs232 serial GPS receiver around 1998 or 99 with pc mapping software on cdrom. Funny looks when you drove around with that kit in those days. What did happen in May 2000 was that President Clinton turned off selective availability signal which made civilian gps signal much more accurate. See https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/modernization/sa/ https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/modernization/sa/
    - not2b 6y ago
      Yes, I am aware of this history as I am a geocacher. Before May 2000 the accuracy of civilian GPS was very bad, perhaps 100 meters expected error.
  - asveikau 6y ago
    I was surprised by this, since I seem to recall some products earlier. For example Wikipedia says Garmin was founded in 1989 and had products in the 90s. What I do remember, other than the obvious part that ubiquitous connectivity wasn't there yet, is that those products sucked compared to today. And that fits in with the 2000 action that allowed more accurate GPS to be used by the public. Though even in 2007 or so I remember my phone gps sucking. It took a long time to get a fix and didn't have hinting from cell tower triangulation or sending nearby wifi APs to a server somewhere.

phone8675309 6y ago

According to the Wikipedia article on Windows XP[0] > At PDC on July 13, 2000, Microsoft announced that Whistler would be released during the second half of 2001, and also unveiled the first preview build, 2250. The build notably introduced an early version of Windows XP's visual styles system. > Whistler was officially unveiled during a media event on February 5, 2001, under the name Windows XP, where XP stands for "eXPerience". So while the product wasn't released until 2001, the codename and preview builds for developers were already released. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP

robotron 6y ago
And the Dev builds were out in the wild.

StavrosK 6y ago

Don't worry, the reference has-will be understood next year.

flashman 6y ago

Same with BitTorrent: first released in July 2001

not2b 6y ago
GPS became available to the public in May 2000, so it was brand new and past self might not be familiar with it.
- ipython 6y ago
  GPS was available earlier to the public; I had a delorme rs232 serial GPS receiver around 1998 or 99 with pc mapping software on cdrom. Funny looks when you drove around with that kit in those days. What did happen in May 2000 was that President Clinton turned off selective availability signal which made civilian gps signal much more accurate. See https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/modernization/sa/ https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/modernization/sa/
  - not2b 6y ago
    Yes, I am aware of this history as I am a geocacher. Before May 2000 the accuracy of civilian GPS was very bad, perhaps 100 meters expected error.
- asveikau 6y ago
  I was surprised by this, since I seem to recall some products earlier. For example Wikipedia says Garmin was founded in 1989 and had products in the 90s. What I do remember, other than the obvious part that ubiquitous connectivity wasn't there yet, is that those products sucked compared to today. And that fits in with the 2000 action that allowed more accurate GPS to be used by the public. Though even in 2007 or so I remember my phone gps sucking. It took a long time to get a fix and didn't have hinting from cell tower triangulation or sending nearby wifi APs to a server somewhere.