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that's not a correct point of view. Your theory would be valid, if this didn't happen in other european countries that had no marketing whatsoever or 'evil big

that's not a correct point of view. Your theory would be valid, if this didn't happen in other european countries that had no marketing whatsoever or 'evil big milk' industry behind.... Almost all former communist countries, gave lots of milk of children, whenever they could as it was universally considered healthy and nutritional. Also Milk, yogurt and cheese are staples of most Mediterranean diets, since like forever.

davchana 6y ago
India too, have milk & its products as a major part of diet since millions of years. All the historical & mythological literature literally says Cow as a tree which gives life, so most of the time being called as Cow-mother. Kids of few hours to people almost near end of their life & everybody between uses milk. About till 20 years ago, many pet dogs & cats & their kids too were fed milk. Buffalo milk is denser & thus more easily available as well as nets more money per liter as compared to cow. As a kid, in 1990, I remember the preference was Buffalo Milk, if not then cow, if not then goat milk (not available everywhere), if not then camel or sheep milk (both very rarely available). Lactose intolerance has got its name only in last 20-30 years, before that it was commonly unaware of, same as peanut allergies are now.
- wtmt 6y ago
  > India too, have milk & its products as a major part of diet since millions of years. Citation needed on “millions of years.”
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  - pm90 6y ago
    There is none, it’s “mythology” lol. This absurd timeline is the result of a culture that portrays its faith as fact, confusing children and adults alike. I remember learning timelines of human civilizations at school and asking my parents about how certain mythological events (eg from the Ramayana or Mahabharata) fit in that timeline and heard some amazing rationalization or was summarily ignored depending on the difficulty.
- adwn 6y ago
  > [...] mythological literature [...] Mythology and religious beliefs have no place in a rational discussion (except insofar as they're the subject of the discussion, which isn't the case here).
  - davchana 6y ago
    Understood, how about saying, from long time ago, even before or from BCE era. The historical literature (not mythological) from last 1000-1500 years all mention various dairy products & milk. The mythological part was only about the Cow as mother part. The buffalo milk, dog cats kittens part is from my own experience in 1990s from there.
kristopolous 6y ago
Correct. In fact milk consumption is high in many places according to this chart http://chartsbin.com/view/1491 http://chartsbin.com/view/1491 These two claims are not in conflict. Just like saying "People have been smoking for thousands of years and tobacco companies were normalizing nicotine addiction" aren't in conflict. They can both be true.* Milk advertisement surely isn't the only factor in dairy consumption. It focused for decades on persuading parents to give it to their children using nutritional claims. * - Also, I'm not using tobacco to imply a devious or malicious use by the milk industry or that their products are unhealthy. No. The two industries used many of the same marketing consultants in the mid-20th century and so ended up with similar campaigns ... that's really it.
- chrisco255 6y ago
  There has been no association with milk and lung cancer. While smoking literally has zero nutritional value whatsoever...milk has protein, calcium, fat, omega 3s, several vitamins, minerals and carbs.

davchana 6y ago

India too, have milk & its products as a major part of diet since millions of years. All the historical & mythological literature literally says Cow as a tree which gives life, so most of the time being called as Cow-mother. Kids of few hours to people almost near end of their life & everybody between uses milk. About till 20 years ago, many pet dogs & cats & their kids too were fed milk. Buffalo milk is denser & thus more easily available as well as nets more money per liter as compared to cow. As a kid, in 1990, I remember the preference was Buffalo Milk, if not then cow, if not then goat milk (not available everywhere), if not then camel or sheep milk (both very rarely available). Lactose intolerance has got its name only in last 20-30 years, before that it was commonly unaware of, same as peanut allergies are now.

wtmt 6y ago
> India too, have milk & its products as a major part of diet since millions of years. Citation needed on “millions of years.”
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- pm90 6y ago
  There is none, it’s “mythology” lol. This absurd timeline is the result of a culture that portrays its faith as fact, confusing children and adults alike. I remember learning timelines of human civilizations at school and asking my parents about how certain mythological events (eg from the Ramayana or Mahabharata) fit in that timeline and heard some amazing rationalization or was summarily ignored depending on the difficulty.
adwn 6y ago
> [...] mythological literature [...] Mythology and religious beliefs have no place in a rational discussion (except insofar as they're the subject of the discussion, which isn't the case here).
- davchana 6y ago
  Understood, how about saying, from long time ago, even before or from BCE era. The historical literature (not mythological) from last 1000-1500 years all mention various dairy products & milk. The mythological part was only about the Cow as mother part. The buffalo milk, dog cats kittens part is from my own experience in 1990s from there.

kristopolous 6y ago

Correct. In fact milk consumption is high in many places according to this chart http://chartsbin.com/view/1491 http://chartsbin.com/view/1491 These two claims are not in conflict. Just like saying "People have been smoking for thousands of years and tobacco companies were normalizing nicotine addiction" aren't in conflict. They can both be true.* Milk advertisement surely isn't the only factor in dairy consumption. It focused for decades on persuading parents to give it to their children using nutritional claims. * - Also, I'm not using tobacco to imply a devious or malicious use by the milk industry or that their products are unhealthy. No. The two industries used many of the same marketing consultants in the mid-20th century and so ended up with similar campaigns ... that's really it.

chrisco255 6y ago
There has been no association with milk and lung cancer. While smoking literally has zero nutritional value whatsoever...milk has protein, calcium, fat, omega 3s, several vitamins, minerals and carbs.