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> Which can be broken down into numerous communities living together. Lol, so now you are talking about ending the concept of cities? This is getting even more

by stale2002 6y ago

> Which can be broken down into numerous communities living together. Lol, so now you are talking about ending the concept of cities? This is getting even more implausible. > I'm not forcing people to sell out their friends, their friends are the ones rejecting their help If no one is going to force people to sell out there friends then you need to understand that a lot of people would simply continue to provide support to them. > Your idea that people would still unquestionably offer help I am not saying everyone would. Instead, I am saying some people would. And some is enough. People absolutely can care a lot about their friends, family, and children, enough so as to provide unconditional support. This happens all the time, in real life! > that cut ties for at least some time. Lots of people, right now, do not cut ties with family members, who do aweful things. > willfully saying they want nothing to do with the family. You think they'd still force their aid on them? I am telling you, that I would help any of my close friends or family, personally, for sure, as would many people I know, and you can't convince me otherwise to not help them. This already happens, right now, in the real world! I think that some people care a whole lot about their friends and family, and no argument that you make overrules this. People, right now, provide massive amounts of unconditional support to many of their friends. I absolutely would do that, for example, regardless of the arguments that are being made. IE, I know many people that would never ever abandon their family, because they "rejected society", and that there is zero argument that people could make to convince them otherwise, because family matters to them.

boomboomsubban 6y ago
>Lol, so now you are talking about ending the concept of cities? This is getting even more implausible. No, I am not. I am discussing furthering what already happens, where cities break down into smaller sections. >am telling you, that I would help any of my close friends or family, personally, for sure, as would many people I know, and you can't convince me otherwise to not help them I am not trying to convince you, your friend said they don't want your help. If you continue trying to force it on them, you are an asshole. >Lots of people, right now, do not cut ties with family members, who do aweful things. Nobody has done an "awful thing". I'm done explaining this. You keep making the same statements that don't even reference what I have said. I understand that friends and family are willing to stand by when their loved one does something bad. I also have friends and family. That is not analogous to what is being discussed. A closer example would be a family having an argument about where to celebrate Christmas, until finally someone breaks off and holds their own celebration.
- stale2002 6y ago
  > your friend said they don't want your help. I am saying that if my friend "rejected society", but also asked for my help, then I would continue to give them the help that they asked for. It would not be an asshole move if they have asked for my help, but also have "rejected society" at the same time. Because they asked for my help. My support for my close friends and family is almost unconditional. And I am talking about the individuals who both "reject society", and also want to live in that society, in a house or something, or they want to be able to eat, and these specific individuals are asking me for help, while also "rejecting society" at the same time. I would provide them that housing or food that they asked from me, even if they "reject society". > That is not analogous to what is being discussed. A closer example would be a family having an argument about where to celebrate Christmas, until finally someone breaks off and holds their own celebration. Yes it is analogous. If my friends or family did what ever it is that you are saying that they are doing, I would still continue to give them unconditional support that they ask from me. > until finally someone breaks off And if they "break off" but still ask me for my help, then I would still give them my help.
  - boomboomsubban 6y ago
    edit never mind, I'm done.

boomboomsubban 6y ago

>Lol, so now you are talking about ending the concept of cities? This is getting even more implausible. No, I am not. I am discussing furthering what already happens, where cities break down into smaller sections. >am telling you, that I would help any of my close friends or family, personally, for sure, as would many people I know, and you can't convince me otherwise to not help them I am not trying to convince you, your friend said they don't want your help. If you continue trying to force it on them, you are an asshole. >Lots of people, right now, do not cut ties with family members, who do aweful things. Nobody has done an "awful thing". I'm done explaining this. You keep making the same statements that don't even reference what I have said. I understand that friends and family are willing to stand by when their loved one does something bad. I also have friends and family. That is not analogous to what is being discussed. A closer example would be a family having an argument about where to celebrate Christmas, until finally someone breaks off and holds their own celebration.

stale2002 6y ago
> your friend said they don't want your help. I am saying that if my friend "rejected society", but also asked for my help, then I would continue to give them the help that they asked for. It would not be an asshole move if they have asked for my help, but also have "rejected society" at the same time. Because they asked for my help. My support for my close friends and family is almost unconditional. And I am talking about the individuals who both "reject society", and also want to live in that society, in a house or something, or they want to be able to eat, and these specific individuals are asking me for help, while also "rejecting society" at the same time. I would provide them that housing or food that they asked from me, even if they "reject society". > That is not analogous to what is being discussed. A closer example would be a family having an argument about where to celebrate Christmas, until finally someone breaks off and holds their own celebration. Yes it is analogous. If my friends or family did what ever it is that you are saying that they are doing, I would still continue to give them unconditional support that they ask from me. > until finally someone breaks off And if they "break off" but still ask me for my help, then I would still give them my help.
- boomboomsubban 6y ago
  edit never mind, I'm done.