4 ms·

Nothing wrong with an older appliance, except that you get what you pay. It might be too power hungry or hot, it might be unsupported/obsolete [1][2] or too slo

Nothing wrong with an older appliance, except that you get what you pay. It might be too power hungry or hot, it might be unsupported/obsolete [1][2] or too slow, e.g. Core 2 Duo can barely play FullHD YouTube videos; AV1 and H265 are also too slow on the first generations of Core CPUs (i5-520M, i3-2120). For these reasons I've recently avoided buying anything before Haswell - the first generation with AVX-2 instructions. I would have preferred Broadwell or Skylake because of the new Intel graphics Linux driver [3], but they were too expensive. [1]: "Intel drops plans to develop Spectre microcode for ancient chips", https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/04/intel-drops-plans-to-develop-spectre-microcode-for-ancient-chips/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/04/intel-drops-plans-to... [2]: "Support timeframes for Unix legacy GPU releases", https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/~/support-timeframes-for-unix-legacy-gpu-releases https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/~/s... [3]: https://github.com/intel/media-driver https://github.com/intel/media-driver

simion314 6y ago
Sure, my first computer was a 486 at the time my friends had Pentium2 . Nothing wrong with a poor kid getting a slower computer and this computer had to wait a few more years before was thrown to garbage (I passed it to a cousin when I had more money to get something more powerful that could play mp3s )
bserge 6y ago
Core 2 Duo is ancient. But people are tossing 2-4 year old machines, and they've got everything one needs. Not to mention smartphones and tablets, which get old in 6 months. That's ridiculous. It's even worse with home appliances, which do not have any significant improvements yoy, or indeed, any improvements at all. Nothing but the design changes. They can be easily fixed and will last just as long as a new appliance.
- znpy 6y ago
  > But people are tossing 2-4 year old machines This! Think of companies that replace their laptops every 3-5 years. A five years old laptop is still fully functional (believe me, I run a 2014-2015 ThinkPad T440 as a personal machine and it works fine). A three years old laptop... Even better.
- ciupicri 6y ago
  Core 2 Duo is indeed ancient, but it's still being sold.

simion314 6y ago

Sure, my first computer was a 486 at the time my friends had Pentium2 . Nothing wrong with a poor kid getting a slower computer and this computer had to wait a few more years before was thrown to garbage (I passed it to a cousin when I had more money to get something more powerful that could play mp3s )

bserge 6y ago

Core 2 Duo is ancient. But people are tossing 2-4 year old machines, and they've got everything one needs. Not to mention smartphones and tablets, which get old in 6 months. That's ridiculous. It's even worse with home appliances, which do not have any significant improvements yoy, or indeed, any improvements at all. Nothing but the design changes. They can be easily fixed and will last just as long as a new appliance.

znpy 6y ago
> But people are tossing 2-4 year old machines This! Think of companies that replace their laptops every 3-5 years. A five years old laptop is still fully functional (believe me, I run a 2014-2015 ThinkPad T440 as a personal machine and it works fine). A three years old laptop... Even better.
ciupicri 6y ago
Core 2 Duo is indeed ancient, but it's still being sold.