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The only actual issue listed in this article is a screenshot of a tweet, that says there’s 5 million activation locked iPads sitting in lockers. I’m a HUGE fan
by ed25519FUUU 6y ago
The only actual issue listed in this article is a screenshot of a tweet, that says there’s 5 million activation locked iPads sitting in lockers.
I’m a HUGE fan of RTR, but I don’t really see how it helps anybody in this situation. You’re legally allowed to unlock/root iOS devices. Nothing legally stopping you. Now there are strong technical barriers indeed, though I bet most of these iPads are vulnerable to rooting.
- shawnz 6y agoThey shouldn't have included that tweet in my opinion. Right to repair doesn't mean enabling people to bypass factory reset protection.
- srtjstjsj 6y agoWhat's an activation locked iPad? Does that mean lost, stolen, or an owner threw away a working iPad for some reason, despite its high resale value? Bypassing factory reset protection seems fine as long as its done as eminent domain seizure from the trash, not paying potential thieves.
- shawnz 6y agoI think all that should really matter is whether it was the owner that chose to have the setting on.
- marcinzm 6y ago>Bypassing factory reset protection seems fine as long as its done as eminent domain seizure from the trash, not paying potential thieves. Thieves (or a third party they sell to) will find a way to officially claim it was from the trash when it wasn't. People are clever and when there's money involved a system to exploit something will be found.
- Wingman4l7 6y agoThis conveniently ignores the existing huge volumes of secondhand Apple devices which were obtained legally for the refurbishing market, which will always be larger than the volume of devices from theft.
- shawnz 6y agoIf the owner is giving the device to a refurbisher, then the refurbisher can explain how to disable the factory reset protection (it can be done online without device access). If it's not the owner, then was it really legally obtained?
- Wingman4l7 6y agoIn practice, it never happens this way. Apple has detached activation protection from the device reset process that people are normally aware of (a factory reset will NOT remove an activation lock, nor will it prompt you to authenticate and optionally do so). I guarantee there are recyclers that are scrapping piles of legally obtained Apple devices on a daily basis that were donated from private and corporate owners that neither have the knowledge nor extra time to remove activation locks on devices they no longer care about. I've seen it firsthand repeatedly.
- shawnz 6y agoNot true. Initiating a factory reset through the settings app DOES automatically remove the activation lock. Only a recovery mode reset will not remove the lock.
- vondur 6y agoIf you have proof of ownership, Apple will unlock the devices for you.
- Wingman4l7 6y agoCategorically untrue. Apple only respects this if you are the first purchaser. Any electronics recycler who has obtained Apple devices legally, as their 2nd or 3rd or Nth owner, has no avenue to unlock them.
- ericabiz 6y agoNo, you need the original proof of purchase for Apple to unlock a device for you, and it has to be in your name. I run repair shops and we have had this conversation hundreds of times from customers. People buy iCloud locked devices from Craigslist, FB Marketplace, and eBay constantly. Apple will not help in these cases, and if they paid cash or used an app without purchase protection, they got screwed. We have even had people who have presented death certificates to Apple to get devices unlocked from someone who died, and that is hit or miss. It’s incredibly frustrating.
- Wingman4l7 6y agoRooting and activation unlocking are NOT the same. Activation-locked Apple devices are essentially soft-bricked, as anything related to iCloud cannot be used. Apple controls activation on the server-side and you CANNOT circumvent it as a user.