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That doesn't make sense. Trump is pro Russia and anti China. Chinese facing more heat now than in the past 50 years.

ardy42 6y ago
> That doesn't make sense. Trump is pro Russia and anti China. Chinese facing more heat now than in the past 50 years. Trump is schizophrenic on China. His "anti-China" attitudes right now seem more of a function of a need for an external enemy to blame/distract from his domestic failures. His trade war with China occurred around the same time he initiated trade disputed with even allied nations. There are even indications that he is not bothered by, and perhaps even approves of, Chinese human rights violations (e.g. IIRC Bolton has said he expressed approval of the Xinjiang camps directly to Xi). I believe some of his advisors are more opposed to current Chinese government actions, but Trump's shown a willingness to do foreign policy 180s against their advice before.
- icebraining 6y ago
  That's not "schizophrenic". He dislikes China insofar as it harms US economic interests, not based on their internal policies. It's fully aligned with his motto of "America first" - first means before everyone, including the Uighurs. Frankly, it doesn't even strike me as that different from previous administrations (it's not like the US particularly cared about what happened to the East Timorese, for example), he mostly just seems more short-sighted, by focusing on money rather than power.
ntsplnkv2 6y ago
The West is not just the US. I clearly said "A unified western response to China."
pwh 6y ago
His public anti-china stance is just a show. Many of his family business dealings are total opposite. Moreover, his presidency is good for China. Fomenting domestic division, weakening law and order, constant attack on the constitution, weakening alliances, being cozy with dictators, on and on, only benefit china, russia and other dictators.
- ideals 6y ago
  > His public anti-china stance is just a show. This is confirmed by John Bolton (I guess if you believe what he wrote in his book that the President attempted in court to block). Trump “turned the conversation to the coming U.S. presidential election, alluding to China’s economic capability and pleading with Xi to ensure he’d win. He stressed the importance of farmers and increased Chinese purchases of soybeans and wheat in the electoral outcome.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/trump-lies-china-coronavirus-timeline.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/trump-lies-china...

> That doesn't make sense. Trump is pro Russia and anti China. Chinese facing more heat now than in the past 50 years. Trump is schizophrenic on China. His "anti-China" attitudes right now seem more of a function of a need for an external enemy to blame/distract from his domestic failures. His trade war with China occurred around the same time he initiated trade disputed with even allied nations. There are even indications that he is not bothered by, and perhaps even approves of, Chinese human rights violations (e.g. IIRC Bolton has said he expressed approval of the Xinjiang camps directly to Xi). I believe some of his advisors are more opposed to current Chinese government actions, but Trump's shown a willingness to do foreign policy 180s against their advice before.

icebraining 6y ago
That's not "schizophrenic". He dislikes China insofar as it harms US economic interests, not based on their internal policies. It's fully aligned with his motto of "America first" - first means before everyone, including the Uighurs. Frankly, it doesn't even strike me as that different from previous administrations (it's not like the US particularly cared about what happened to the East Timorese, for example), he mostly just seems more short-sighted, by focusing on money rather than power.

ntsplnkv2 6y ago

The West is not just the US. I clearly said "A unified western response to China."

pwh 6y ago

His public anti-china stance is just a show. Many of his family business dealings are total opposite. Moreover, his presidency is good for China. Fomenting domestic division, weakening law and order, constant attack on the constitution, weakening alliances, being cozy with dictators, on and on, only benefit china, russia and other dictators.

ideals 6y ago
> His public anti-china stance is just a show. This is confirmed by John Bolton (I guess if you believe what he wrote in his book that the President attempted in court to block). Trump “turned the conversation to the coming U.S. presidential election, alluding to China’s economic capability and pleading with Xi to ensure he’d win. He stressed the importance of farmers and increased Chinese purchases of soybeans and wheat in the electoral outcome.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/trump-lies-china-coronavirus-timeline.html https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/trump-lies-china...