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Love how when the same restrictions are imposed in the USA, everyone starts talking about "doing the right thing"
by sushshshsh 6y ago
Love how when the same restrictions are imposed in the USA, everyone starts talking about "doing the right thing"
- d3nj4l 6y agoThere's a time and place for that conversation and it isn't this.
- anm89 6y agowhy?
- Ensorceled 6y agoWhataboutism is a distraction. This article is about the issues in Hong Kong, "what about similar things happening in country x,y or z" is an attempt to derail this important conversation.
- luxurycommunism 6y agoNo it's not. It's a valid comparison of a global trend that national governments all over the world have been claiming more and more power than they actually need.
- AnimalMuppet 6y agoBecause this conversation is about Hong Kong. And by trying to make this conversation about America's failings, you make it hard for us to have a conversation about Hong Kong. Keep watching. Within a very few days, there will be an article on HN about BLM, or about police monitoring of US citizens, or about the NSA evesdropping. If you want to criticize the US for having less freedom than the label says, feel free to do it there. (And there we can yell at people trying to bring up Hong Kong, telling them that they're off topic.)
- dbcurtis 6y agoSo perhaps you were downvoted for being vague. But certainly things like the supreme court recently refusing to hear an important case on qualified immunity have me concerned that USA-ians are whistling past the graveyard right now.
- Ensorceled 6y agoThey are also being down voted for trying to make this a conversation about the USA instead of about Hong Kong.
- ciarannolan 6y agoThere's a "but America" comment in all of these threads, usually more than one. It's boring and played out. I just downvote and move on.
- bsanr2 6y agoUSA is relevant because any discussion of HK democracy or capitalism places it along an axis between the virtues championed, globally, by China and the US. Otherwise, what discussion is there to have about a Chinese city that the Chinese are dealing with as they see fit?
- Ensorceled 6y agoSure, if this comment actually WAS about that axis, and about how the UK and the US have taken a step back from their international engagement, THAT would have been an interesting and useful addition to the conversation. But, that isn't what this comment was.
- luxurycommunism 6y agoAgreed. Always funny to see how the same people who support HK protesters vilify BLM/Antifa who are protesting our gradual slide into an authoritarian police state. Lots of HK protesters demand nothing less than defunding the police, radical democracy and autonomy from the higher ups in Beijing. If anyone of the protesters in Portland demanded the same, this whole conversation would be different on HN.
- ogogmad 6y agoNot everyone on HN is from the US, so I don't see how your point is relevant.
- stann 6y agoAs a counterpoint, I have never been made to realize the US origin of HN as in recent times. The "hacker" in the name is gradually being swallowed by the "news"-mainly US