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Wait, what? The largest newspaper (Telegraaf) is definitely right wing. The second largest newspaper (AD) is also anything but left wing. I agree with public b

Wait, what? The largest newspaper (Telegraaf) is definitely right wing. The second largest newspaper (AD) is also anything but left wing. I agree with public broadcasting, but that’s in part because the right wing has changed. Traditionally, the right-wing stronghold was the conservative christian block. Which had their political party and broadcasting associations. But these broadcasters have changed their direction after Christianity pretty much collapsed and became a minority religion in The Netherlands. However in recent years WNL and PowNed have been added as right-wing broadcasters.

the-dude 6y ago
The relevance of newspapers has been greatly diminished. And I am not even a millenial.
- danieldk 6y ago
  Digital subscriptions of Dutch newspapers have grown steadily: https://www.svdj.nl/de-stand-van-de-nieuwsmedia/digitale-oplage-kranten-stijgen/ https://www.svdj.nl/de-stand-van-de-nieuwsmedia/digitale-opl... (For non-native speakers, scroll to the first graph.)
  - the-dude 6y ago
    You can't compare digital subscriptions with print-subscriptions, your own link even says so. De Telegraaf and het AD alone have lost about 800k subscriptions in the last two decades. And the trend sharpens. https://www.svdj.nl/de-stand-van-de-nieuwsmedia/papier/oplage-telegraaf-ad-klappen/ https://www.svdj.nl/de-stand-van-de-nieuwsmedia/papier/oplag...
    - danieldk 6y ago
      De Telegraaf and het AD alone have lost about 800k subscriptions in the last two decades. The curves for the other newspapers are far less profound and some of them do really well in digital subscriptions (NRC, Volkskrant, FD). Would be interesting to know what is going on here. Are people interested in right-wing media less inclined to pay for content, are they less in a position to pay for content, or are the traditional right-wing news papers being replaced by other media (if so, which ones?). At any rate, I stand by my point, which is: there have traditionally been large right-wing media in The Netherlands, but their audience seems to be leaving them. I also agree that there was a void for some time in public broadcasting, which is filled by some contenders, like PowNed and WNL. However, these broadcasting associations do not seem to do well, because they have very few members (25,000 and 50,000 respectively). Even a broadcaster like HUMAN, of which I have absolutely no clue what their profile is, has more members (68,000).

the-dude 6y ago

The relevance of newspapers has been greatly diminished. And I am not even a millenial.

danieldk 6y ago
Digital subscriptions of Dutch newspapers have grown steadily: https://www.svdj.nl/de-stand-van-de-nieuwsmedia/digitale-oplage-kranten-stijgen/ https://www.svdj.nl/de-stand-van-de-nieuwsmedia/digitale-opl... (For non-native speakers, scroll to the first graph.)
- the-dude 6y ago
  You can't compare digital subscriptions with print-subscriptions, your own link even says so. De Telegraaf and het AD alone have lost about 800k subscriptions in the last two decades. And the trend sharpens. https://www.svdj.nl/de-stand-van-de-nieuwsmedia/papier/oplage-telegraaf-ad-klappen/ https://www.svdj.nl/de-stand-van-de-nieuwsmedia/papier/oplag...
  - danieldk 6y ago
    De Telegraaf and het AD alone have lost about 800k subscriptions in the last two decades. The curves for the other newspapers are far less profound and some of them do really well in digital subscriptions (NRC, Volkskrant, FD). Would be interesting to know what is going on here. Are people interested in right-wing media less inclined to pay for content, are they less in a position to pay for content, or are the traditional right-wing news papers being replaced by other media (if so, which ones?). At any rate, I stand by my point, which is: there have traditionally been large right-wing media in The Netherlands, but their audience seems to be leaving them. I also agree that there was a void for some time in public broadcasting, which is filled by some contenders, like PowNed and WNL. However, these broadcasting associations do not seem to do well, because they have very few members (25,000 and 50,000 respectively). Even a broadcaster like HUMAN, of which I have absolutely no clue what their profile is, has more members (68,000).