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> Some buildings and vehicles have burned. And some people have been murdered: https://apnews.com/864cb5c14ba08b4411a16577042d0773 https://apnews.com/864cb5c14

> Some buildings and vehicles have burned. And some people have been murdered: https://apnews.com/864cb5c14ba08b4411a16577042d0773 https://apnews.com/864cb5c14ba08b4411a16577042d0773

sneak 6y ago
At least one of the deaths mentioned in that URL... was shot by police. Recall also that these protests began because the police in the US have murdered thousands in the last few centuries. Anti-police-violence protests would have to sustain dozens of related deaths every single night for months to even approach the level of depravity exercised by police for years.
- amadeuspagel 6y ago
  > At least one of the deaths mentioned in that URL... was shot by police. The URL clearly refutes the parent comment that the only damage done by the protestors are vehicles and buildings getting set on fire. > Recall also that these protests began because the police in the US have murdered thousands in the last few centuries. > Anti-police-violence protests would have to sustain dozens of related deaths every single night for months to even approach the level of depravity exercised by police for years. If we're going to police violence in the last few centuries, surely we should also include riots in the last few centuries? I'm pretty certain that more people were murdered by rioters then the police during that time.
  - sneak 6y ago
    > The URL clearly refutes the parent comment that the only damage done by the protestors are vehicles and buildings getting set on fire. You seem to assert that the murders itemized in that URL were committed by protesters. It's not reasonable to assume that any murders that happen at or near protests were caused by protestors and not opportunistic criminals that aren't invested in the protest one way or another, just as it's not reasonable to assume that police are justified in shooting anyone whose hands they can't see. The violence imposed by police is documented, because police are in uniform uniform, and zero non-cops are wearing those uniforms. There is no plain way to distinguish between opportunistic-criminals-present-at-a-protest and protesters. Indeed, during all of this, it has been documented that sometimes police have engaged in violence whilst wearing all black and not identified as police.

> Some buildings and vehicles have burned. And some people have been murdered: https://apnews.com/864cb5c14ba08b4411a16577042d0773 https://apnews.com/864cb5c14ba08b4411a16577042d0773

sneak 6y ago

At least one of the deaths mentioned in that URL... was shot by police. Recall also that these protests began because the police in the US have murdered thousands in the last few centuries. Anti-police-violence protests would have to sustain dozens of related deaths every single night for months to even approach the level of depravity exercised by police for years.

amadeuspagel 6y ago
> At least one of the deaths mentioned in that URL... was shot by police. The URL clearly refutes the parent comment that the only damage done by the protestors are vehicles and buildings getting set on fire. > Recall also that these protests began because the police in the US have murdered thousands in the last few centuries. > Anti-police-violence protests would have to sustain dozens of related deaths every single night for months to even approach the level of depravity exercised by police for years. If we're going to police violence in the last few centuries, surely we should also include riots in the last few centuries? I'm pretty certain that more people were murdered by rioters then the police during that time.
- sneak 6y ago
  > The URL clearly refutes the parent comment that the only damage done by the protestors are vehicles and buildings getting set on fire. You seem to assert that the murders itemized in that URL were committed by protesters. It's not reasonable to assume that any murders that happen at or near protests were caused by protestors and not opportunistic criminals that aren't invested in the protest one way or another, just as it's not reasonable to assume that police are justified in shooting anyone whose hands they can't see. The violence imposed by police is documented, because police are in uniform uniform, and zero non-cops are wearing those uniforms. There is no plain way to distinguish between opportunistic-criminals-present-at-a-protest and protesters. Indeed, during all of this, it has been documented that sometimes police have engaged in violence whilst wearing all black and not identified as police.