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There’s reason to be skeptical. From a local Portland journalist covering the protests: https://twitter.com/alex_zee/status/1302284883625046016?s=21 https://t

There’s reason to be skeptical. From a local Portland journalist covering the protests: https://twitter.com/alex_zee/status/1302284883625046016?s=21 https://twitter.com/alex_zee/status/1302284883625046016?s=21 “ Not that I want to legitimize this @reason piece, but I have filmed copious moments of ppl throwing things at police/vandalizing bldgs/etc & have never been told I’m not allowed to film. I have never heard of the so-called “IPC.” The lack of sourcing in this story shows.” https://twitter.com/alex_zee/status/1302295695194386432?s=21 https://twitter.com/alex_zee/status/1302295695194386432?s=21 “ Also, worth noting that this piece is by Nancy Rommelmann. Background: https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/01/11/25469480/why-ristretto-roasters-ties-to-victim-blaming-journalist-matter https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/01/11/25469480... “

coldpie 6y ago
This is probably the most important comment in this whole thread.
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luckylion 6y ago
That's pretty expected though: if you're on somebody's side, they're usually not treating you as an enemy (not getting on any lists!), won't try to stop you from filming and generally treat you nicely.
macinjosh 6y ago
No there isn’t. There is documented video of this happening. It may not happen to every single journalist but that doesn’t mean it is not happening. Antifa is very organized and they specifically look for journalists they do not like.
- jeremyjh 6y ago
  Please post a link to these videos. I was surprised I couldn't find any in OP.
  - macinjosh 6y ago
    The video I saw was on a live stream. A cursory searched turned up this thread from a WaPo reporter though that includes photos and videos of this happening in DC: https://twitter.com/KunkleFredrick/status/1302410800653578242 https://twitter.com/KunkleFredrick/status/130241080065357824...
  - rbecker 6y ago
    Here are two: https://twitter.com/AlphaNewsMN/status/1298352487603286016 https://twitter.com/AlphaNewsMN/status/1298352487603286016 https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2020/08/20/black-lives-matter-mob-surrounds-and-threaten-local-seattle-news-crew-n2574770 https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2020/08/20/black-li...
- Balgair 6y ago
  > Antifa is very organized Maybe in some places, there may be some groups that seem so. But given the evidence I've seen near me, 'organized' would be too strong a word. They're more 'middle-class white kids looking to get their faces punched', at least around here.
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sremani 6y ago
Apparently @alex_zee is no objective observer and has participated in disinformation. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1300617725354504192 https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1300617725354504192
- dublinben 6y ago
  Neither is Andy Ngo. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Andy_Ngo https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Andy_Ngo
  - COGlory 6y ago
    Sure, but that doesn't invalidate the tweet which is factual, not opinion based, and easily verifiable. Whereas Zee's tweet relies solely on us to trust him.
- sudonim 6y ago
  This Andy Ngo? https://www.salon.com/2019/08/28/right-wing-journalist-andy-ngo-outed-video-shows-him-hanging-out-with-far-right-hate-group/ https://www.salon.com/2019/08/28/right-wing-journalist-andy-...
  - macinjosh 6y ago
    Oh Salon, that bastion of levelheaded, fact first reporting. /s
  - burfog 6y ago
    He was considered left-wing until he dared to report what he saw, refusing to censor it for the benefit of Antifa. That sounds like a reputable journalist to me.

coldpie 6y ago

This is probably the most important comment in this whole thread.

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luckylion 6y ago

That's pretty expected though: if you're on somebody's side, they're usually not treating you as an enemy (not getting on any lists!), won't try to stop you from filming and generally treat you nicely.

macinjosh 6y ago

No there isn’t. There is documented video of this happening. It may not happen to every single journalist but that doesn’t mean it is not happening. Antifa is very organized and they specifically look for journalists they do not like.

jeremyjh 6y ago
Please post a link to these videos. I was surprised I couldn't find any in OP.
- macinjosh 6y ago
  The video I saw was on a live stream. A cursory searched turned up this thread from a WaPo reporter though that includes photos and videos of this happening in DC: https://twitter.com/KunkleFredrick/status/1302410800653578242 https://twitter.com/KunkleFredrick/status/130241080065357824...
- rbecker 6y ago
  Here are two: https://twitter.com/AlphaNewsMN/status/1298352487603286016 https://twitter.com/AlphaNewsMN/status/1298352487603286016 https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2020/08/20/black-lives-matter-mob-surrounds-and-threaten-local-seattle-news-crew-n2574770 https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2020/08/20/black-li...
Balgair 6y ago
> Antifa is very organized Maybe in some places, there may be some groups that seem so. But given the evidence I've seen near me, 'organized' would be too strong a word. They're more 'middle-class white kids looking to get their faces punched', at least around here.

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sremani 6y ago

Apparently @alex_zee is no objective observer and has participated in disinformation. https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1300617725354504192 https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1300617725354504192

dublinben 6y ago
Neither is Andy Ngo. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Andy_Ngo https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Andy_Ngo
- COGlory 6y ago
  Sure, but that doesn't invalidate the tweet which is factual, not opinion based, and easily verifiable. Whereas Zee's tweet relies solely on us to trust him.
sudonim 6y ago
This Andy Ngo? https://www.salon.com/2019/08/28/right-wing-journalist-andy-ngo-outed-video-shows-him-hanging-out-with-far-right-hate-group/ https://www.salon.com/2019/08/28/right-wing-journalist-andy-...
- macinjosh 6y ago
  Oh Salon, that bastion of levelheaded, fact first reporting. /s
- burfog 6y ago
  He was considered left-wing until he dared to report what he saw, refusing to censor it for the benefit of Antifa. That sounds like a reputable journalist to me.