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Okay so, here we go again: An article which does not go into any detail about specifics, and makes a very bold claim (i.e. this product is better than this one

Okay so, here we go again: An article which does not go into any detail about specifics, and makes a very bold claim (i.e. this product is better than this one because I said it's better). Why is this on the front page ....

sjwright 6y ago
> Why is this on the front page .... Likely because it was mentioned in passing in the most recent Linus Tech Tips video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwkiU6GG-YU&t=273 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwkiU6GG-YU&t=273
stuaxo 6y ago
It does go into specifics, better MS office compatibility and a ribbon UI. My CV evolved over the last 20 years as a word doc, and loading it in anything else explodes it into 2x the pages. Yes, I could redo the whole thing, but other things in life are a higher priority. I use word 2016 in crossover, which is stable...ish. I will gladly try this.
- tinus_hn 6y ago
  I’m quite sure Microsoft got a lot of patents on the ribbon user interface, if this becomes big that’s going to be an issue.
- aneutron 6y ago
  First of all, LibreOffice does support a Ribbon UI, without all the patent-y stuff. Secondly, "better MS office compatibility" is really, really a non-constructive and large comparative. For example, a good post would have been to list exactly what goes wrong, or what are the most annoying bugs. Most of the time, the developers can use posts like those to pin-point exactly what is wrong and fix it quite swiftly. Because it's not only an open source project that strives for compatibility, but it's also made by benevolent humans who don't necessarily have a very definite document of what should be implemented and how. So telling them "hey guys, this should work like this, can you please fix it" is miles better than just saying "hey, your product sux, onlyoffice is better compat with word, bye". I'm sorry if this somehow comes out a bit offensive, it is not, it's just that sometimes we tend to forget that those developers won't necessarily have the use cases we do, and hence will never optimize for them if we don't report them, and that just dismissing the whole software in favor of another without citing detailed analysis helps neither.
  - chris_wot 6y ago
    And interestingly, when I check the issues list, I see issues with rendering ligatures, merged cells not displaying, page sizing issues, inability to set the page background colour properly... Not knocking the developers, but it seems to me they have their own compatibility issues. In fact, a fair few of them. Which means that the blog review is... fascinatingly biased and anecdotal and glosses over the fact that any competing software to MS Office will have its own unique list of compatibility bugs.
- MayeulC 6y ago
  > My CV evolved over the last 20 years as a word doc, and loading it in anything else explodes it into 2x the pages. I usually fix this with libreoffice by installing fonts that are metric-compatible with Microsoft ones. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Metric-compatible_fonts https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Metric-compatible_fonts

sjwright 6y ago

> Why is this on the front page .... Likely because it was mentioned in passing in the most recent Linus Tech Tips video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwkiU6GG-YU&t=273 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwkiU6GG-YU&t=273

stuaxo 6y ago

It does go into specifics, better MS office compatibility and a ribbon UI. My CV evolved over the last 20 years as a word doc, and loading it in anything else explodes it into 2x the pages. Yes, I could redo the whole thing, but other things in life are a higher priority. I use word 2016 in crossover, which is stable...ish. I will gladly try this.

tinus_hn 6y ago
I’m quite sure Microsoft got a lot of patents on the ribbon user interface, if this becomes big that’s going to be an issue.
aneutron 6y ago
First of all, LibreOffice does support a Ribbon UI, without all the patent-y stuff. Secondly, "better MS office compatibility" is really, really a non-constructive and large comparative. For example, a good post would have been to list exactly what goes wrong, or what are the most annoying bugs. Most of the time, the developers can use posts like those to pin-point exactly what is wrong and fix it quite swiftly. Because it's not only an open source project that strives for compatibility, but it's also made by benevolent humans who don't necessarily have a very definite document of what should be implemented and how. So telling them "hey guys, this should work like this, can you please fix it" is miles better than just saying "hey, your product sux, onlyoffice is better compat with word, bye". I'm sorry if this somehow comes out a bit offensive, it is not, it's just that sometimes we tend to forget that those developers won't necessarily have the use cases we do, and hence will never optimize for them if we don't report them, and that just dismissing the whole software in favor of another without citing detailed analysis helps neither.
- chris_wot 6y ago
  And interestingly, when I check the issues list, I see issues with rendering ligatures, merged cells not displaying, page sizing issues, inability to set the page background colour properly... Not knocking the developers, but it seems to me they have their own compatibility issues. In fact, a fair few of them. Which means that the blog review is... fascinatingly biased and anecdotal and glosses over the fact that any competing software to MS Office will have its own unique list of compatibility bugs.
MayeulC 6y ago
> My CV evolved over the last 20 years as a word doc, and loading it in anything else explodes it into 2x the pages. I usually fix this with libreoffice by installing fonts that are metric-compatible with Microsoft ones. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Metric-compatible_fonts https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Metric-compatible_fonts