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Why would anyone want to continue to engage with your bad faith argument? Science doesn't work on the basis of "linking to one study" and to try to make a point

Why would anyone want to continue to engage with your bad faith argument? Science doesn't work on the basis of "linking to one study" and to try to make a point by demanding one shows that you're not interested in an actual discussion. But, sure, here's a single, arbitrary metanalysis on several studies on the efficacy of a single antidepressant: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/2045125316629071 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/204512531662907...

KorfmannArno 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bupropion#Depression https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bupropion#Depression
- Sebguer 6y ago
  Thanks for proving my point. Edit: Oh, you're the grandparent comment. I explicitly wasn't talking to you, since you're not even pretending to argue in good faith.
- tsimionescu 6y ago
  You've linked an article that cites one study which found weak evidence for the effectiveness in depression of one particular medication that is not widely approved for use in depression. What is the point of this link supposed to be? That we shouldn't be prescribing bupropion to patients? Perhaps - most likely SSRIs and other drugs are more reliable, but it doesn't hurt to have a wider variety of classes of drugs to try.
  - KorfmannArno 6y ago
    "We"? are you a doctor?
    - tsimionescu 6y ago
      "We" as a democratic society that can make new rules.
KerryJones 6y ago
You're incredibly hostile in your remark to someone asking for a study. I haven't made any argument, and you continued with logical fallacies (strawman argument), I never said anything about one study proving anything. I've actually researched this area for years, I was curious what your study would show and how it would evaluate the efficacy of antidepressants. What your arrogant and antagonistic communication hasn't mentioned is that there is no link here to show anything a link to the brain, only to the symptoms (which you did mention), but failed to take the actual argument -- which is about chemical imbalances which Psychiatry as an industry (as an individuals) have been claiming they're close to since the 70s and have failed to prove that claim -- ever. Blocking symptoms also needs to be shared with the accompanying side effects which were neglected both in your study reference and in any mention of the drug -- and you will find them _with all_ anti-depressants. The particular one you mentioned, also in the Wellbutrin family, has had studies in eight different countries which detail their side effects, including suicide, mania, and psychosis.

KorfmannArno 6y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bupropion#Depression https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bupropion#Depression

Sebguer 6y ago
Thanks for proving my point. Edit: Oh, you're the grandparent comment. I explicitly wasn't talking to you, since you're not even pretending to argue in good faith.
tsimionescu 6y ago
You've linked an article that cites one study which found weak evidence for the effectiveness in depression of one particular medication that is not widely approved for use in depression. What is the point of this link supposed to be? That we shouldn't be prescribing bupropion to patients? Perhaps - most likely SSRIs and other drugs are more reliable, but it doesn't hurt to have a wider variety of classes of drugs to try.
- KorfmannArno 6y ago
  "We"? are you a doctor?
  - tsimionescu 6y ago
    "We" as a democratic society that can make new rules.

KerryJones 6y ago

You're incredibly hostile in your remark to someone asking for a study. I haven't made any argument, and you continued with logical fallacies (strawman argument), I never said anything about one study proving anything. I've actually researched this area for years, I was curious what your study would show and how it would evaluate the efficacy of antidepressants. What your arrogant and antagonistic communication hasn't mentioned is that there is no link here to show anything a link to the brain, only to the symptoms (which you did mention), but failed to take the actual argument -- which is about chemical imbalances which Psychiatry as an industry (as an individuals) have been claiming they're close to since the 70s and have failed to prove that claim -- ever. Blocking symptoms also needs to be shared with the accompanying side effects which were neglected both in your study reference and in any mention of the drug -- and you will find them _with all_ anti-depressants. The particular one you mentioned, also in the Wellbutrin family, has had studies in eight different countries which detail their side effects, including suicide, mania, and psychosis.