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Calling Linux testing a "total joke" is a total joke in itself -- of course Linux is not perfect (nothing is). As for testing, there is kernelci.org, LTP, Syzb

• jeffbee 6y ago
  The fact that syzkaller finds a new bug every 10 seconds is an indictment of Linux testing, not evidence of its quality.
  • edoceo 6y ago
    I couldn't find anything at every 10 seconds (wouldnt that be 8k issues per day?) This reporting list has a few per day https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!forum/syzkaller-bugs https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!forum/syzkaller-bugs Isn't testing supposed to find bugs? And aren't fuzzers identifying issues that /might/ exist in theory but dont manifest in practice? From your assessment I'm surprised my Linux boxen don't crash every day and really surprised I had one stay online for five years - but, many things things about Linux surprise me.
    • jeffbee 6y ago
      Testing is supposed to prevent bugs from being committed. Finding the bugs in released software after the fact is the worst possible process. The fact is that people discover and fix bugs, and then years later someone else commits the same mistake again, and nothing prevents this because the kernel has literally zero pre-commit unit tests. Here's an example (thread by the author of syzkaller). https://twitter.com/dvyukov/status/1169544165023240194 https://twitter.com/dvyukov/status/1169544165023240194
      • edoceo 6y ago
        It sounds like you've got a good handle on things, have you tried sending any patches?