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I don't like the bundled model. I'm running Arch on my main machine currently. The AUR makes getting third-party packages easy. Unfortunately, I need VirtualBox

I don't like the bundled model. I'm running Arch on my main machine currently. The AUR makes getting third-party packages easy. Unfortunately, I need VirtualBox for a class, and Arch's VirtualBox package won't run on the current Linux 5.8 kernel, and downgrading Linux on Arch is not easy. I switched to Windows for VirtualBox, but in retrospect I could've installed linux-lts. Ubuntu is more stable in theory, but I've encountered broken packages (like hex editors with an incorrect hard-coded temp path, causing it to be unable to overwrite files).

sergeykish 6y ago
It is not super simple but I lived with outdated kernel and Xorg for a couple of years (because of Intel Poulsbo [1]). Process described in wiki [2] and uses virtualbox-host-modules as an example. $ pacman -Qi glibc Depends On : linux-api-headers>=4.10 tzdata filesystem 1. This version is not present in Arch Linux Archive anymore [3], search for package page [4], View Changes, search for corresponding PKGBUILD revision [5], makepkg. It is much easier if package is not that old and can be found in /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ or archive. 2. install with `pacman -U linux-4.15.8-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz` 3. skip package from being upgraded with /etc/pacman.conf IgnorePkg [6] I had problems both with Ubuntu and Arch Linux updates. At least I can fix Arch Linux issues, Ubuntu felt broken. [1] http://sergeykish.com/linux-poulsbo-emgd http://sergeykish.com/linux-poulsbo-emgd [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Downgrading_packages https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Downgrading_packages [3] https://archive.archlinux.org/packages/l/linux/ https://archive.archlinux.org/packages/l/linux/ [4] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/linux/ https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/linux/ [5] https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/commits/packages/linux/trunk https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/commits/packa... [6] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#Skip_package_from_being_upgraded https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#Skip_package_fro...
- tracker1 6y ago
  But then you can't run leading edge hardware... My motherboard's network interface, wireless interface and my gpu all require a kernel version that's newer than the 19.10 ubuntu (and even 20.04 support for stability), let alone the last LTS release. Ukku worked well for me to get newer kernels without issue, but kvm/virtualbox were totally borked, just as my hardware support was stable.
  - sergeykish 6y ago
    Sorry to hear, KVM does not work? I expect problems with virtualbox but KVM, can you share a story please?
elmolino89 6y ago
Latest Manjaro has the latest VirtualBox in the package repository. It is easier imho switch from Arch to Manjaro than going to Win10

sergeykish 6y ago

It is not super simple but I lived with outdated kernel and Xorg for a couple of years (because of Intel Poulsbo [1]). Process described in wiki [2] and uses virtualbox-host-modules as an example. $ pacman -Qi glibc Depends On : linux-api-headers>=4.10 tzdata filesystem 1. This version is not present in Arch Linux Archive anymore [3], search for package page [4], View Changes, search for corresponding PKGBUILD revision [5], makepkg. It is much easier if package is not that old and can be found in /var/cache/pacman/pkg/ or archive. 2. install with `pacman -U linux-4.15.8-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz` 3. skip package from being upgraded with /etc/pacman.conf IgnorePkg [6] I had problems both with Ubuntu and Arch Linux updates. At least I can fix Arch Linux issues, Ubuntu felt broken. [1] http://sergeykish.com/linux-poulsbo-emgd http://sergeykish.com/linux-poulsbo-emgd [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Downgrading_packages https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Downgrading_packages [3] https://archive.archlinux.org/packages/l/linux/ https://archive.archlinux.org/packages/l/linux/ [4] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/linux/ https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/linux/ [5] https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/commits/packages/linux/trunk https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/commits/packa... [6] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#Skip_package_from_being_upgraded https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#Skip_package_fro...

tracker1 6y ago
But then you can't run leading edge hardware... My motherboard's network interface, wireless interface and my gpu all require a kernel version that's newer than the 19.10 ubuntu (and even 20.04 support for stability), let alone the last LTS release. Ukku worked well for me to get newer kernels without issue, but kvm/virtualbox were totally borked, just as my hardware support was stable.
- sergeykish 6y ago
  Sorry to hear, KVM does not work? I expect problems with virtualbox but KVM, can you share a story please?

elmolino89 6y ago

Latest Manjaro has the latest VirtualBox in the package repository. It is easier imho switch from Arch to Manjaro than going to Win10