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Correct, 15% of athletes who shows some or no symptoms ended up with myocarditis: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/23/sports/ncaafootball/college-football-myoca

Correct, 15% of athletes who shows some or no symptoms ended up with myocarditis: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/23/sports/ncaafootball/college-football-myocarditis-coronavirus.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/23/sports/ncaafootball/colle... If we screened kids who merely tested positive and found 15% had serious longer term reprecussions, how would this change opinion surrounding policy?

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PragmaticPulp 6y ago
Careful, Myocarditis isn’t necessarily indicative of long-term heart damage. Mild myocarditis is not uncommon with any viral infection. Myocarditis should be watched for, but it’s critically important that we discuss severity and relative occurrence rather than reducing the discussion to a binary yes/no. Sadly, whenever you see a news article that omits specific statistics it’s prudent to check the facts. It’s easy to drive clicks by removing critical details to make side effects sound more permanent or more common than they are.
- adrr 6y ago
  Is it common for Athletes to have to sit out the year because they caught the flu? Flu is so pervasive.
irq11 6y ago
FTA: ”But as Daniels’s survey awaits the rigors of peer review, it has received scant attention, in part because Ohio State has refused to make public any testing data about its athletes” So this is an unpublished, un-peer-reviewed paper where the data aren’t available. Basically, someone said something, and the New York Times reported it as fact. That’s simply incredibly irresponsible. So far we’ve seen one of these myocarditis scares debunked completely: https://mobile.twitter.com/ProfDFrancis/status/1298499595056668673 https://mobile.twitter.com/ProfDFrancis/status/1298499595056... and just yesterday, the Penn State doctor had to apologize for admitting that the “30% of all athletes have myocarditis” headline he instigated was essentially hearsay: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2020/09/penn-state-doctor-13rd-of-big-ten-athletes-impacted-by-coronavirus-developed-heart-issue.html%3foutputType=amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2020... We should be very careful about extrapolating any sort of pre-publication data in this area.

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PragmaticPulp 6y ago

Careful, Myocarditis isn’t necessarily indicative of long-term heart damage. Mild myocarditis is not uncommon with any viral infection. Myocarditis should be watched for, but it’s critically important that we discuss severity and relative occurrence rather than reducing the discussion to a binary yes/no. Sadly, whenever you see a news article that omits specific statistics it’s prudent to check the facts. It’s easy to drive clicks by removing critical details to make side effects sound more permanent or more common than they are.

adrr 6y ago
Is it common for Athletes to have to sit out the year because they caught the flu? Flu is so pervasive.

irq11 6y ago

FTA: ”But as Daniels’s survey awaits the rigors of peer review, it has received scant attention, in part because Ohio State has refused to make public any testing data about its athletes” So this is an unpublished, un-peer-reviewed paper where the data aren’t available. Basically, someone said something, and the New York Times reported it as fact. That’s simply incredibly irresponsible. So far we’ve seen one of these myocarditis scares debunked completely: https://mobile.twitter.com/ProfDFrancis/status/1298499595056668673 https://mobile.twitter.com/ProfDFrancis/status/1298499595056... and just yesterday, the Penn State doctor had to apologize for admitting that the “30% of all athletes have myocarditis” headline he instigated was essentially hearsay: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2020/09/penn-state-doctor-13rd-of-big-ten-athletes-impacted-by-coronavirus-developed-heart-issue.html%3foutputType=amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2020... We should be very careful about extrapolating any sort of pre-publication data in this area.