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> we’re witnessing an unprecedented wealth transfer right now in the US Indeed. And it must be regarded as infinitely baffling that everyone is shouting "aboli

> we’re witnessing an unprecedented wealth transfer right now in the US Indeed. And it must be regarded as infinitely baffling that everyone is shouting "abolish the police" instead of "redistribute the wealth" ...

sneak 6y ago
The police are the ones who are practically preventing the redistribution of the wealth. Without them, 1/30th of the vacant residential stock in the US would be filled with 100% of the homeless people in the US, for example. (There are approximately 35x as many vacant houses/apartments in the US as there are homeless.)
- sdfin 6y ago
  Would you eliminate private property? Or are you suggesting something different?
  - tehjoker 6y ago
    Yes, both anarchists and socalists share a desire to abolish private property. The major differences are in their strategy and transition states.
    - sdfin 6y ago
      Yes. I don't understand why, in the case of socialists, do they believe that the gobernment can manage wealth and resources better than private owners. And regarding anarchists, I don't understand how would they distribute scarce resources.
- lr4444lr 6y ago
  ...until the major REITs and large private landlord corps hire private security to kick them out, with extreme violent prejudice to send a message, because who're you gonna call to stop them from brutal and unlawful eviction anyway, once you get rid of the police? It's not like the homeless can afford attorneys for eviction court.
  - JacksonGariety 6y ago
    Exactly. If you get rid of the police, the wealthy elite will just hire thugs to protect their stuff.
- JacksonGariety 6y ago
  > The police are the ones who are practically preventing the redistribution of the wealth. Policing prevents, and makes possible, all sorts of things. It is a function of law. By abolishing policing you throw out the baby (the law) with the bathwater (laws that facilitate the concentration of wealth).
  - sneak 6y ago
    Please don't confusing abolishing police with abolishing policing. Calling a random member of society to do entirely untrained policing in the US would oftentimes result in better outcomes than the current police in the US: https://lawandcrime.com/crime/outrage-flows-after-prosecutors-charge-teen-with-murder-for-killing-her-rapist/ https://lawandcrime.com/crime/outrage-flows-after-prosecutor...
yters 6y ago
what we really need to do is abolish the people, source of all our people problems. no people, no problems

sneak 6y ago

The police are the ones who are practically preventing the redistribution of the wealth. Without them, 1/30th of the vacant residential stock in the US would be filled with 100% of the homeless people in the US, for example. (There are approximately 35x as many vacant houses/apartments in the US as there are homeless.)

sdfin 6y ago
Would you eliminate private property? Or are you suggesting something different?
- tehjoker 6y ago
  Yes, both anarchists and socalists share a desire to abolish private property. The major differences are in their strategy and transition states.
  - sdfin 6y ago
    Yes. I don't understand why, in the case of socialists, do they believe that the gobernment can manage wealth and resources better than private owners. And regarding anarchists, I don't understand how would they distribute scarce resources.
lr4444lr 6y ago
...until the major REITs and large private landlord corps hire private security to kick them out, with extreme violent prejudice to send a message, because who're you gonna call to stop them from brutal and unlawful eviction anyway, once you get rid of the police? It's not like the homeless can afford attorneys for eviction court.
- JacksonGariety 6y ago
  Exactly. If you get rid of the police, the wealthy elite will just hire thugs to protect their stuff.
JacksonGariety 6y ago
> The police are the ones who are practically preventing the redistribution of the wealth. Policing prevents, and makes possible, all sorts of things. It is a function of law. By abolishing policing you throw out the baby (the law) with the bathwater (laws that facilitate the concentration of wealth).
- sneak 6y ago
  Please don't confusing abolishing police with abolishing policing. Calling a random member of society to do entirely untrained policing in the US would oftentimes result in better outcomes than the current police in the US: https://lawandcrime.com/crime/outrage-flows-after-prosecutors-charge-teen-with-murder-for-killing-her-rapist/ https://lawandcrime.com/crime/outrage-flows-after-prosecutor...

yters 6y ago

what we really need to do is abolish the people, source of all our people problems. no people, no problems