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the pandemic is not over. information is limited. it is not possible to definitively draw this conclusion yet. it is possible it is significant.

dv_dt 6y ago
The significant observation is that there is a possible pathway from Covid infection to MIS-C...
dehrmann 6y ago
Maybe we're doing what we can, but I wish we were putting more effort into collecting data around mid to long-term effects and their likelihood because not knowing that makes it hard to make informed decisions. My money is on this being between rare and uncommon because I'd expect to hear more specific reports on it. Widespread things surface a lot faster.
cm2187 6y ago
Until there is hard data that shows it is a significant problem, this is just more covid FUD. There are rare complications with pretty much every disease. Doesn’t mean it deserves to be a concern in term of public health.
- hinkley 6y ago
  Do you understand the difference between precautions, hedging, and FUD? Pre caution. Pre. You can’t wait for all the data and then decide. That’s postcaution.
  - arcticbull 6y ago
    You’ll never ever have all the data. You can however once you have a statistically significant sample size say with a high degree of confidence and that’s completely sufficient. It’s also fair to say there’s been an awful lot of fud. Not least is the whole “reinfections” business. Your immune system mounted a sufficient response to clear the virus and then just immediately forgot how? That would be an absolute novelty to medical science.
    - cm2187 6y ago
      Plus at the same time we are told we must be locked down until there is a vaccine, which of course will only happen if we ever develop immunity!
      - arcticbull 6y ago
        Ahh but I’m sure it’s different when a doctor injects inactivated our attenuated viruses.
  - just-juan-post 6y ago
    Could you help me understand how India, with 4x the population of the USA and almost no mask wearing, has 1/3 the cases of the USA? Is it possible that your risk assessment of the virus is too heavily influenced by the confounding variable of your own personal fear?
    - dv_dt 6y ago
      Less consistent reporting of statistics, or fewer tests, or being at an earlier stage of spread, or effective contact tracing.
    - known 6y ago
      No test = No case Indian politicians have mastered https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fraud https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fraud https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
arcticbull 6y ago
How many cases do you need to get a statistically significant sampling? Somehow we know what SARS does to a human with just a couple hundred cases. At some point we’re going to have to say we have a pretty good idea. India alone has 4,000,000 cases.
- claudeganon 6y ago
  But we don’t know what SARS would’ve done if it became a pandemic illness, because it’s a whole other set of conditions at that scale. We’re not anywhere at the point where we have a clear picture of the long term health consequences of this disease because enough time has not passed since it began spreading. This is an initial review of a troubling new complication. It will likely take years for us to understand it’s full effects, whatever they are or are not.

dv_dt 6y ago

The significant observation is that there is a possible pathway from Covid infection to MIS-C...

dehrmann 6y ago

Maybe we're doing what we can, but I wish we were putting more effort into collecting data around mid to long-term effects and their likelihood because not knowing that makes it hard to make informed decisions. My money is on this being between rare and uncommon because I'd expect to hear more specific reports on it. Widespread things surface a lot faster.

cm2187 6y ago

Until there is hard data that shows it is a significant problem, this is just more covid FUD. There are rare complications with pretty much every disease. Doesn’t mean it deserves to be a concern in term of public health.

hinkley 6y ago
Do you understand the difference between precautions, hedging, and FUD? Pre caution. Pre. You can’t wait for all the data and then decide. That’s postcaution.
- arcticbull 6y ago
  You’ll never ever have all the data. You can however once you have a statistically significant sample size say with a high degree of confidence and that’s completely sufficient. It’s also fair to say there’s been an awful lot of fud. Not least is the whole “reinfections” business. Your immune system mounted a sufficient response to clear the virus and then just immediately forgot how? That would be an absolute novelty to medical science.
  - cm2187 6y ago
    Plus at the same time we are told we must be locked down until there is a vaccine, which of course will only happen if we ever develop immunity!
    - arcticbull 6y ago
      Ahh but I’m sure it’s different when a doctor injects inactivated our attenuated viruses.
- just-juan-post 6y ago
  Could you help me understand how India, with 4x the population of the USA and almost no mask wearing, has 1/3 the cases of the USA? Is it possible that your risk assessment of the virus is too heavily influenced by the confounding variable of your own personal fear?
  - dv_dt 6y ago
    Less consistent reporting of statistics, or fewer tests, or being at an earlier stage of spread, or effective contact tracing.
  - known 6y ago
    No test = No case Indian politicians have mastered https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fraud https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fraud https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

arcticbull 6y ago

How many cases do you need to get a statistically significant sampling? Somehow we know what SARS does to a human with just a couple hundred cases. At some point we’re going to have to say we have a pretty good idea. India alone has 4,000,000 cases.

claudeganon 6y ago
But we don’t know what SARS would’ve done if it became a pandemic illness, because it’s a whole other set of conditions at that scale. We’re not anywhere at the point where we have a clear picture of the long term health consequences of this disease because enough time has not passed since it began spreading. This is an initial review of a troubling new complication. It will likely take years for us to understand it’s full effects, whatever they are or are not.