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Just remove snap [1] and move on with your life. That's the very first thing I do in every single Ubuntu installation for years (including 20.04), and never had

Just remove snap [1] and move on with your life. That's the very first thing I do in every single Ubuntu installation for years (including 20.04), and never had any problem. At least in my case I don't need / don't want any kind of app store in my system (but I understand this is not for everyone; less technical users may not be inclined to installing .deb packages using command line). And I still follow this thread [2], hoping one day they will clean up the $HOME/snap directory and fix the performance so gnome-calculator doesn't take several seconds to load, but I'm keeping my hopes low. [1] https://www.kevin-custer.com/blog/disabling-snaps-in-ubuntu-20-04/ https://www.kevin-custer.com/blog/disabling-snaps-in-ubuntu-... [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1575053 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1575053

timbit42 6y ago
So how do you install Chromium without their snap? Is installing non-snap Chromium as easy as installing non-snap packages in their repo? If not, I'd rather use Linux Mint.
- anoncake 6y ago
  Since LM is based on Ubuntu, if you can install Chromium there using a deb, the same package/repo should work on Ubuntu.
- nycticorax 6y ago
  I'm not saying that you should do this, necessarily, but I just installed regular Chrome from the Google .deb. That also fixed an issue with snap-Chromium not handling web app shortcuts properly.
- guiambros 6y ago
  The bad decision here is not "Ubuntu's snap obsession" as OP claims, but the decision by the Chromium team to piggyback on a half-baked packaging mechanism, instead of simply distributing .deb packages (like the official Chrome). Thankfully there are plenty of fixes available. Here's one of them [1]: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:saiarcot895/chromium-beta sudo apt update sudo apt install chromium-browser [1] https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-beta https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-...
  - ShorsHammer 6y ago
    > Thankfully there are plenty of fixes available. Here's one of them Sounds wonderful, along with the accrued online karma points. As great as one person is, they will never be the upstream source. Here's my ppa also, I have a proven track record of updating browsers with security hotfixes hours before anyone else, but on the downside I really don't secure my system at all and leave my laptop unattended in Starbucks, please subscribe: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:TOTALLYNOTMALWARE/chromium-beta sudo apt update sudo apt install chromium-browser
    - guiambros 6y ago
      Of course you should pick the poison that matches your risk level. I agree that installing random ppas brings all sorts of risks, just like any other 3P code you install - pip/gem/npm-installed libraries, chrome extensions, etc. All these are real attack vectors. My original point was that replacing your OS because you can't install Chromium seems ludicrous to me, when you can easily find alternatives. Here's a few better options: 1) Use official packages from debian: https://askubuntu.com/a/1206153/161744 https://askubuntu.com/a/1206153/161744 2) Use Pop!OS repositories (assuming you trust System76 folks): sudo add-apt-repository ppa:system76/pop 3) Compile Chromium from source https://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/get-the-code https://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/get-the-code
  - SahAssar 6y ago
    A PPA is not a replacement, especially for something like a browser that almost everyone needs to have installed.
Caligatio 6y ago
The only thing I want (not need) that is unavoidably distributed via snap is Canonical's Livepatch. I don't want it enough to keep snapd around but it irritates me that I can't have a useful security feature.

timbit42 6y ago

So how do you install Chromium without their snap? Is installing non-snap Chromium as easy as installing non-snap packages in their repo? If not, I'd rather use Linux Mint.

anoncake 6y ago
Since LM is based on Ubuntu, if you can install Chromium there using a deb, the same package/repo should work on Ubuntu.
nycticorax 6y ago
I'm not saying that you should do this, necessarily, but I just installed regular Chrome from the Google .deb. That also fixed an issue with snap-Chromium not handling web app shortcuts properly.
guiambros 6y ago
The bad decision here is not "Ubuntu's snap obsession" as OP claims, but the decision by the Chromium team to piggyback on a half-baked packaging mechanism, instead of simply distributing .deb packages (like the official Chrome). Thankfully there are plenty of fixes available. Here's one of them [1]: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:saiarcot895/chromium-beta sudo apt update sudo apt install chromium-browser [1] https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-beta https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-...
- ShorsHammer 6y ago
  > Thankfully there are plenty of fixes available. Here's one of them Sounds wonderful, along with the accrued online karma points. As great as one person is, they will never be the upstream source. Here's my ppa also, I have a proven track record of updating browsers with security hotfixes hours before anyone else, but on the downside I really don't secure my system at all and leave my laptop unattended in Starbucks, please subscribe: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:TOTALLYNOTMALWARE/chromium-beta sudo apt update sudo apt install chromium-browser
  - guiambros 6y ago
    Of course you should pick the poison that matches your risk level. I agree that installing random ppas brings all sorts of risks, just like any other 3P code you install - pip/gem/npm-installed libraries, chrome extensions, etc. All these are real attack vectors. My original point was that replacing your OS because you can't install Chromium seems ludicrous to me, when you can easily find alternatives. Here's a few better options: 1) Use official packages from debian: https://askubuntu.com/a/1206153/161744 https://askubuntu.com/a/1206153/161744 2) Use Pop!OS repositories (assuming you trust System76 folks): sudo add-apt-repository ppa:system76/pop 3) Compile Chromium from source https://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/get-the-code https://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/get-the-code
- SahAssar 6y ago
  A PPA is not a replacement, especially for something like a browser that almost everyone needs to have installed.

Caligatio 6y ago

The only thing I want (not need) that is unavoidably distributed via snap is Canonical's Livepatch. I don't want it enough to keep snapd around but it irritates me that I can't have a useful security feature.